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re: My hero Javier Milei releases lengthy statement on tariffs
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Roger, you should try reading this one "Stand Up to Bullies: Becoming Brave and Overcoming Being Bullied".
Adding govt intervention in the markets is stifling. If you could read, this would be very easily verifiable.
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Then kick em in the teeth. Even more likely they will fold.
China is doomed by their one child policy and central planning (tariffs are central planning) and there is no saving them.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So china makes a product for cheaper and sells it cheaper.
Company goes out of business in the US.
Those jobs are now in china though. Not in the US.
Kind of doesnt work when we have laws that difer from china.
Company goes out of business in the US.
Those jobs are now in china though. Not in the US.
Kind of doesnt work when we have laws that difer from china.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I see the MAGA folks are not enjoying this thread very much, and are avoiding.
Nope. You guys sound retarded as usual.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Lol, okay as everything you considered was wrong, starting on the premise that Trump wants these permanent. Negotiating to reduce negative impacts on us currently with pressures is a winning strategy.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:11 pm to frogtown
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I expect PT board economists JJdoc and bcreed will be here shortly to tell everyone Milei is wrong.
He's wrong.
He is only right if the world was a free market.
It's not.
here is a good example of that
quote:
As of March 1, 2025, the minimum wage in Argentina is 296,832 Argentine pesos (ARS) per month. This is equivalent to about US\$278.
In the US you are talking about $1,200/month working minimum wage.
or take tariffs. Argentina can say no tariffs. But if china puts tariffs on argentina, then it will cost them more to sell there and tap into that market. So he doesnt have an 8 billion person free market anymore.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:12 pm to Nosevens
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starting on the premise that Trump wants these permanent
We've had some for 6-7 years now. Joe biden loved Trumps tariffs so much that he expanded them.
Worked well, eh?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:30 pm to BugAC
quote:This is what roger seems to not understand. The soldiers that stormed the beaches of Normandy did so, even though many of them did not benefit from it.
ou can be elderly and also want what's best for the future of our country even if you don't personally benefit from it.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Seems the MAGA folks drove all of those skeered of tarriffs away. Guess those skeered of tarriffs folks didn't enjoy this thread after all.
I see the MAGA folks are not enjoying this thread very much, and are avoiding.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:53 pm to RollTide4547
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his is what roger seems to not understand. The soldiers that stormed the beaches of Normandy did so, even though many of them did not benefit from it.
I'm not sacrificing my quality of life for this future that will never exist and a culture/society that is in a race to the bottom.
Automation and AI will change employment forever soon enough. Yall are chasing ghosts.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:53 pm to Flats
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If consumers really wanted to do that you wouldn't need tariffs. You can pay more for US made stuff right now, you don't have to wait for government action.
At a certain point when it’s not feasible for the % of population necessary to pay more for “x” domestic goods vs similar cheap goods from foreign shitholes, I’d like government to put its finger on the scale to steer business to the American company. If that means tariff, fine.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Used in specific situations is necessary, like dumping goods into our markets with substandard material or or below market value. Canada for instance has tariff on American dairy at over 200% but not a person in Canada is clamoring because they can’t get American dairy. They understand that their product comes first, Americans with a weak sense of nationalism wants an other nations to have equal footing regardless of their policies towards imports. Canada enjoys knowledge that they have free security from invasions because they know America has their back, Mexico too as America will not accept another world power at our borders. They above any other country should be open to our goods without exacting penalties
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Then why are you here arguing? Over a quarter million posts. Seems being out and living your life would be better quality way to spend your time. Unless your life doesn't really have all that much quality to start with.
I'm not sacrificing my quality of life for this future that will never exist and a culture/society that is in a race to the bottom. Automation and AI will change employment forever soon enough. Yall are chasing ghosts.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:01 pm to Nosevens
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They above any other country should be open to our goods without exacting penalties
Maybe we should bring this up to the person who negotiated the latest trade deal with Canada & Mexico.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:02 pm to RollTide4547
He lives alone in a trailer in Alaska. It’s all he’s got
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This is the goal, no question. And to get there, some eggs must be broken.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
DELIVERING ON HIS PROMISE: President Donald J. Trump is replacing the outdated North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
Today, President Trump is signing his historic USMCA deal, making good on his promise to deliver fairer and more reciprocal trade for the American people.
USMCA will replace the terrible NAFTA agreement that resulted in the loss of millions of American jobs and devastated communities across our country.
The deal marks a tremendous victory for American workers, farmers, manufacturers, and businesses alike.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Automation and AI will change employment forever soon enough. Yall are chasing ghosts.
If your prediction is as incorrect as your past predictions, then we are all very safe from automation and AI.
Roger the prognosticator is ALWAYS way off. This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:15 pm to Ten Bears
Maybe the agreement needs busting all together as it locks in growth for them at the expense of Americans. When you have a bad foundation for anything then building on it just is a waste
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don’t think you’re going to find many that disagree. The rub is where you find trading partners bending you over, making sure American producers can’t compete in their markets. Then something has to be done, or you are all complicit in the destruction of those American producers.
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