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re: Mutiny...Mattis was bad enough but I somehow missed this one

Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9465 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Could anyone tell me why top brass military are writing Op-Eds' much less in the Atlantic?


Because the Deep State is not just a slogan, it's a real thing, and Trump is threatening it.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50688 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:24 pm to
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all the war hawks are pissed at trump for pulling troops out of hell holes around the world and making peace with our enemies.
In a sense, it does make the country more vulnerable. We can't use the troops here, and if there's no agenda, we'll have force reductions and lose experience.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45881 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:30 pm to
This is such a stupid thing for Esper to do. We have mayors and governors saying openly that they will allow rioters to continue to destroy property unfettered. WTF would he have Trump do?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21689 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:37 pm to
Just yesterday a lot of current brass were saying that all DOD personnel have sworn an oath to the constitution to support all rights, including protest.

That included Esper, SecArmy, West Point Commandant, and I think the Joint Chiefs, among others. Weirdly coordinated IMHO.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:40 pm to
Trump can't even send in National Guard unless the Governors ask for it. Take DC (I hear the USSS are pissed someone leaked Trump was taken into the bunker) Does Trump protect the monuments Churches and HIMSELF or call in the military. Local police are controlled by people that despise Trump. The local AG is DWS brother.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:43 pm to
Look at this crap. LINK The Pentagon and State Dept are full of call me Lt Col Vindman's.

Notice the theme

"The sanctity of the U.S. Constitution"

It is like muh Russians. As Dubya used Marines in Cally as Trump's lawyer Marine said.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45881 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:52 pm to
The dude resigned over a fake news article. What an idiot.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:00 pm to
It is sad. Obama put in Lt Col Vindman types that are prog yes men wearing their politics on their arm. The gritty old schools seem to be blackmailed to make political statements. Mattis' letter sounded like Pelosi wrote it.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:04 pm to
I wonder if Bongino addresses this subject today?

Bongino video

ETA: video changed as the other link cut off Bongino's show...
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47094 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:08 pm to
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all the war hawks are pissed at trump for pulling troops out of hell holes around the world and making peace with our enemies.

WAR!

WAR!!



you are spot on sir
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:53 pm to
Interesting, I didn't listen to every word but Bongino didn't mention mutiny once. he said we had Ford Pinto's and Carter and survived it will get better we hit rock bottom today.

I think the matter was cleared up and or Bongino was told to STFU about it in public as it is quite serious. It was always there.

Who does Trump use as counsel regarding him being surrounded? not lawyers necessarily but who can he trust around him?
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66097 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 2:23 pm to
I am actually not that worried about the clip yesterday. Bongino seemed to be saying the mutiny was possible if Trump wanted to use military on American soil/people. Unless it gets completely insane, I think that is the right call. And Bongino had just finished a rant saying the same thing before he got into the mutiny references.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17651 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 2:52 pm to
Anyone whose wallet is about to get lighter will come out against anything to do with Trump.
Posted by MoCo Ag
Member since Mar 2020
262 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 2:55 pm to
All assets deployed
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 4:15 pm to
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All assets deployed
Post a link.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 6:07 pm to
update

Now John Kelly joins the OMB scene and does an interview with the mooch

LINK
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 6:15 pm to
This article says Espers pulled out all military and ordered no weapons against CIC wishes. LINK

If he pulled them why would he give a ROE order? The Nat Guard had rubber bullets.tear gas at worst, correct?



It sounds like they were all for it advised Trump on the act and using it, Pence agreed, and then took it back as a set up.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50799 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 6:17 pm to
What’s funny is that GHWB invoked the Insurrection Act and sent 14K troops to end the LA riots in 92.

None of these military people had a problem or question about it.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
25909 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 6:18 pm to
I’m sorry. I keep trying to upvote you and only one goes through.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
161891 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 6:39 pm to
I would love to know who starts this crap. An article said they were for using it if needed. Trump said if needed.

Then Trump shows a Bible and a burnt Church and he is attacked. Pelosi's daughter lied about 'peaceful' protesters ' getting gassed. Who makes the phone call to have these neocon military brass all go off the reservation/ They are mad that a terrorist was killed on a runway probably leaving with their money. Yeah I said that.

This is nucking futs.
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