re: Much Needed Clarity Regarding the Pope and the Recent Document Regarding Blessings

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You actually need a link to confirm Catholic seminaries are filled with gay men? Now who is lying?

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Catholic seminaries are not what they were in the sixties and seventies. The priests coming out these days are very traditional/conservative, and they are a lot more serious about keeping those with homosexual inclinations out than they were in the past.

I actually think you'll see a much more conservative/traditional Catholic Church in the next decade or two because it's quite obvious that everyone serious about their faith under the age of fifty is pretty traditional. You can see that by looking at the most popular Catholic podcasts, YouTube channels, etc. They are ALL traditionalists, none of the top entities in the Catholic media world are pushing for gay marriage or women priests or anything like that. It's actually pretty remarkable. The few priests and lay people pushing for it are boomers.

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I actually think you'll see a much more conservative/traditional Catholic Church in the next decade or two because it's quite obvious that everyone serious about their faith under the age of fifty is pretty traditional. You can see that by looking at the most popular Catholic podcasts, YouTube channels, etc. They are ALL traditionalists, none of the top entities in the Catholic media world are pushing for gay marriage or women priests or anything like that. It's actually pretty remarkable. The few priests and lay people pushing for it are boomers.

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As an under 40 active and involved Church member, I 1000% agree with this.

I love listening to Fr. Mike Schmitz

JESUS CHRIST did not “found” the ROMAN aka LATIN Catholic “Church”.

The RCC broke away from the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church aka Orthodoxy in 1054.

wow another thread on this topic. Will they ever end.

I want to remind everyone again that these are not the words of Pope Francis, but instead the words of a dicastery. Now Pope Francis did approve of what they say, but the fact that they aren't pope Francis's words should be remembered!

I saw in the thread also that Rev tried to claim that catholic seminaries are filled with gay men. If you have met some of the young priest, really in any part of the country you would know how false this is. Unless all the young priests I know are hiding it.

frick this Anti-pope

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we’d all know what was going on without any documents to explain it.
Then he’d be voted out of the church the same day

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So you admit that your church is guided by voting, democratically acting men alone. You freely admit that their votes are what shapes the message coming from the pulpit. You will fully buy into total depravity of men and will then rely on them to vote for what is good. You make no accounting for a divine mandate and gaurantee that we will keep your faith in the Truth. As with all things since Luther's rebellion might makes right to serve hedonistic pursuits.

Perhaps this is why Protestantism can't be taken seriously to address the following subjects:
-divorce (not even spoken of and often condoned);
-contraception (no understanding of Natural Law and no binding teaching on ordered vs disordered sexuality.. Protestants freely enable the sexual act to be separated into sometimes unitive and sometimes generative based on the immoral whims of men...weighty issues are left to 'personal' discernment and moral relativism is rampant);
-usury (western civ used to have an informed understandingof the evils of turning the sterile [money] into the faux fruitful [interest charged as a means to beget more money]...thank you protestant Dutch and English for this wonderful innovation)
-materialism
-radical individualism (this is the core of the Protestant message...man's might to interpret Truth for himself is sufficient for the determination of Truth; there is no actual unified Chruch for I [the Protestant] am my own church...cue up the 'Truth [Scripture according to how my sect/self reads it] reveals itself to true scotsman/believer arguements)


The trees are bearing bad fruit. As denominations fade because of their willingness to be of the world the Protestant individual will migrate and continue their status as a spiritual refugee until the end up in non-denom/evangelical gatherings that don't have the safety rails of confessions or little "t" tradition.

The next 30 years will see a rise in heresies that will make the nestorians and Arians blush.

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I’m saying Homosexuality is anti-biblical. And since the congregation is biblically literate, it wouldn’t put up with a pastor who defied biblical truth. It’s that simple

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But the basis for your arguement is that flawed men will come together to determine, through their biased opinions, what is Biblical according to their interpretation of Scripture. The consensus will then carry the day. Will the "vote" you speak of require a simple majority? A 100 percent vote?

Homosexuality is a layup for consensus for your church today. Divorce and contraception were similar "easy issues" for purity tests 150 years ago. How did those issues work out? Now they just aren't talked about and are left up to individuals to decide.

Will Homosexuality be the same as divorce is 30 years for you and your voting cohort? I tend to believe yes.

What is the Biblical truth regarding birth control pills and condoms, Revelator?

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Didn't have a Bible to lean on as the sole deposit of faith?

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I’ve never met a Catholic yet that doesn’t have a strong anti-Bible steak in them. Which is weird, since it’s the word of God.
But we both know the RCC has to downplay the Bible so that they can be the ultimate authority on truth.
That and because so many of their traditions are unscriptural

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Is the protestant church anti-Bible when they constantly pump out different versions of Scripture to keep it "updated with the language of the times"

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In some cases, yes

Regardless of the Vatican document on this matter, the widely-held belief will be that the Church is blessing a union of two people of the same sex.
The impression will be that the Church approves such unions. If recent history is any indication, the Church will do NOTHING to change the impression.