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NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
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Most of you are missing the point on Milley
The bottom line is, he called China because supposedly he believed Trump was rogue enough to actually attack unprovoked.

HOWEVER. According to the story which is clearly designed to make Trump look bad, even they acknowledge Trump never ended up doing anything or trying to.

You'll note that they don't say anywhere that Trump tried to and was prevented. They don't say anywhere that Milley told Trump, "hey, I called the Chinese so don't be stupid".

Nope. It just turned out to be a fear that didn't come to fruition which means it was an UNFOUNDED fear.

Milley's actions were treasonous regardless. But, they're exceptionally worthy of getting frog marched given the facts indicate that his supposed reasons for acting were all in his fricking head.


teke184
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Zachary, LA
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
“So, you committed treason over something you THOUGHT Trump would do?”

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cajunangelle
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
I think it was released to stop Trump from running in 24 months. They are so above reproach and arrogant they think it was medal worthy.

Vindmans reply is what the mystery is...

I think it was an avenue Biden could use to get Milley to resign and Biden decided Afghanistan is off the news so he doesn't want Milley as a scape goat now?


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xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
I didn’t miss it or a lot of other people. We know it’s all bull shit


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CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
He should be chaptered out based on failure to meet height and weight standards anyway. Assuming he's around 6'0, he can't be above 203 lbs without being taped.

1. There is no way he is below 203.

2. There is no way he is under 26% bodyfat.


NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
Side note.

If liberals believe that the CJCOS can actively sabotage potential actions by the POTUS with no repercussions, how far down the chain does this believe go?

Can a 2 Star division commander do it?

A Colonel?

A LTC? Maybe a Sergeant Major?

Hell, how about a Sergeant in Intel?

How do they not see the obvious problem with Okaying this? The General had a perfectly legit course of action if he feared Trump. Resign and go public immediately with his concerns.


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Bow08tie
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Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
What do the DS/Dems do frequently? Project what they are doing or plan to do on others

Red October


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SouthEndzoneTiger
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Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
Right, even if his fear was warranted there is a proper chain of command. If you don't follow that chain of command and do what he did, it's treason.


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Topcat
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Member since Jan 2005
326 posts

re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
A hyperactive imagination is not a defense to treason.


TrueTiger
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley

We have to choose which is worse:

Sharing key security information with our geopolitical adversary.

or

Being so incompetent to believe that our President was actually going to put his country in that kind of danger.


bizeagle
Member since May 2020
523 posts

re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
General Milley is beginning to look like the one who is emotionally unstable, delusional and disconnected, not Trump.

However, Bob Woodward has a consistent history of leaking salacious, bomb throwing, prerelease book details that turn out to be misleading and/or completely false but sell a lot of books.


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jamboybarry
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Member since Feb 2011
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
Yeah that’s what’s so funny. The conspirators claim China had bad intel about a pending attack so they notified them this was false yet no one briefed the President on this?


NC_Tigah
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Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
quote:

Milley's actions were treasonous regardless.
If descriptions are accurate.


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NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts

re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
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We have to choose which is worse:

Sharing key security information with our geopolitical adversary.

or

Being so incompetent to believe that our President was actually going to put his country in that kind of danger.




3. Being so damned spineless that you're at a point in your career when you could simply resign and receive 100% of your base pay in retirement while landing some mid six-figure job at one of the nation's defense contractors.........you STILL couldn't bring yourself to just resign in disgust and go public with your concerns about Trump. Nope. You decided to literally put American troops in danger. Because what if Trump DID send planes into the area and Milley warned the Chinese. What did he think the Chinese would do? Offer the pilots tea?


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cajunangelle
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Member since Oct 2012
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
They don't put the politicians in the JCS top brass on fat boy programs, do they .

do they even have fat boy programs in the Navy/military any more?

I get your overall point though, he is a big fat goon...

last I heard evals were weird and reminded me of the stupid questions some employers ask in 3 pages of.

If you have an employee that comes in late what do you do?

a-counsel them and see if they are being bullied

b-find out if they have issues with their transitioning a sex change

c-write them up and tell them one more call off or tardiness and they are terminated

d-find out if they were protesting with BLM and were tired

If you pick C you don't get the job.

disclaimer: i exaggerated the questions a bit but the overall fluff of them are accurate.
This post was edited on 9/16 at 10:56 am


baybeefeetz
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Member since Sep 2009
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
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a fear that didn't come to fruition which means it was an UNFOUNDED fear


Unfounded here should mean there was no good reason to fear it. So what evidence did Milley cite for his fear? The question is whether his judgment on that was reasonable.


NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts

re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
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Yeah that’s what’s so funny. The conspirators claim China had bad intel about a pending attack so they notified them this was false yet no one briefed the President on this?

Also. If that were the case, you would merely need to call China and say "your concerns aren't justified, all is good".

Not, "your concerns aren't justified, all is good, and if it turns out I'm wrong, I'll tell where our troops are so you can defend yourself!!!"

I mean holy shit


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teke184
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Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
66733 posts

re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
The onus on that is for Milley to explain his fears and show proof of WHY he thought Trump would do so, not Trump to explain why he wasn’t crazy.


I don’t think going down that avenue helps Milley because other countries supposedly have some of the stuff involved and would be able to counter outright bull shite.
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CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
e - determine if there is an underlying issue causing it.

If not, THEN c


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NoRINO
Member since Sep 2021
22 posts

re: Most of you are missing the point on Milley
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Unfounded here should mean there was no good reason to fear it. So what evidence did Milley cite for his fear? The question is whether his judgment on that was reasonable.

That's not the question because it's irrelevant if he thought it was reasonable. We have civilian control of the military for a reason. Cause the opposite is a bad fricking idea.

And besides. As the OP points out. By default, we know his fears were not reasonable. He did NOTHING on OUR end to prevent Trump from doing something crazy and, Trump still didn't do anything crazy. The facts speak for themselves.


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