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re: More Nazi and KKK killing since 911 than Islamic extremist killings?

Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:06 am to
Posted by CheniereTiger108
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:06 am to
In those "statistics" who got to determine the perps motives and whether they were "political" ??

Were the "left wing" attacks listed as well?? I bet that would clear things up.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:22 am to
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May 24, 2004. Wade and Christopher Lay, a father-son pair obsessed with the 1993 government siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, kill a bank security guard in Tulsa, Oklahoma.


:confuse:

Ok- so what about this classifies it as a right wing attack? Using that logic, we could classify every robbery or theft committed by a black person as a left wing attack because they felt like the government still owed them from days of slavery.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:23 am to
If I'm not mistaken, I believe that was classified as "work place violence"
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:27 am to
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Slate though? Far left website


Funny how they included the Bernie Portland supporter in there!

And a few others NOT affiliated with the KKK!
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:10 am to
Not only do they exclude 9/11 they also lump in every possible "right wing" connection and yet split up every left wing, black, or Muslim connection to make sure their thesis holds. For example, Ft. Hood shootings aren't included because that was work place violence.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:29 am to
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aside from 9/11, very few people have been murdered in the US by Islamic extremists.


Goes well with

Aside from slavery blacks have been treated well in the USA
Posted by germandawg
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:09 am to
Either way they are both terrorist groups and should be expelled from our midst by any means necessary
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:16 am to
Uh, your list has quite a few listings that are not white supremacist.

Being anti-government doesn't make you a white supremacist.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:55 am to
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Nazis and White supremacists have killed and maimed far more people in that time.

highly unlikely

i mean San Bernadino and Orlando alone are going to be hard to top

likely the stats, assuming they exist, will exclude those as "lone wolf" attacks that aren't "Islamic extremists" and they will include all sorts of random attacks by non-Nazi or racist groups like the sov cits (who, juts for the record, have a large population of black adherents)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:59 am to
PBS

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homegrown, right wing extremists have also killed dozens of Americans. The groups include white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups and anti-federalists militias.


that's the soc cits, who are not nazis or WSs

quote:

And while jihadist terrorists have killed 95 people in the U.S. since 9/11, far-right extremists have killed 68 during the same time, including the car attack in Charlottesville.


it looks like he's trying for the"and maimed" as his crutch WHILE using stats for non/Nazi non-supremacist groups


Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:00 am to
The way to stop Islamic terrorism is to tweet pictures of cats.

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:02 am to
yup i was right. did a search and wiki has an article as well as a link directly

i didn't look at every incident, but i knew one to look for: the sov cits who killed that deputy in LA

quote:

A 2012 ambush of St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana police (2 killed),


so that stat is utter bullshite. also of note:

quote:

The 2017 Portland train attack (2 killed),


a Bernie Sanders supporter who hates Trump is now a "right wing" attacker
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:06 am to
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who, juts for the record, have a large population of black adherents
including the BR cop killer
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:09 am to
like i posted in another thread, the media and liberal "intellectuals" are having major issues logically making their arguments about these groups. they distance ANTIFA from liberals by calling them "anarchists", so they can indirectly defend the parts they want while distancing themselves from teh parts they don't, but on the same token, will call sovereign citizens, who are anarchists, "right wing"
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:18 am to
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a Bernie Sanders supporter who hates Trump is now a "right wing" attacker
He's an all around psycho, but his murders had frick all to do with Bernie Sanders. Cmon, now.
quote:

 "Death to antifa! (anti-fascism). You call it terrorism. I call it patriotism! You hear me? Die.”
He singled out the girls because they were Muslim.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:19 am to
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He's an all around psycho, but his murders had frick all to do with Bernie Sanders. Cmon, now.

i'm not linking Bernie to this

if you hear a person is a supporter of Bernie Sanders and hates trump, do you associate "right wing" with them? no

Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:30 am to
Your list is skewed because murders by known mentally ill people are included.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:34 am to
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Since 9/11, more attacks by right wing terrorists. More deaths by hadjis


I bet you that in that same time period there's been more murders by democrats than white racists and Muslim terrorists combined.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:41 am to
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also that 99% of BLM protests are peaceful but the media doesn't report that.



He's correct. They report that 100% of them are peaceful
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:42 am to
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find this to be BS but can't find the right statistics.


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