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re: Moderna vaccine has similar immune response to natural infection

Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:20 pm to
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Am I wrong in that this information would make taking the Moderna vaccine a no-brainer over the Pfizer one


I work in a big health system (Yale). That’s the one they coerced us into getting
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8920 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:23 pm to
They forced you to take something thats not approved?
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:24 pm to
You did good for yourself. As far as I see it you chose runny shite over solid shite.

Im in the natural camp and will not be taking shite in any form.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:49 pm to
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I am glad that I rolled up my sleeve and proudly to... blah blah blah blah
Did you think no one would remember all of your previous stance?

AMAZING

Moderna is not even close to natural immunity - not even close.

Studies first said 3x better for Natural Immunity; then 7 times better; then a couple of day ago 27X better.

your dick will likely fall off within about 3 years if the clotted blood doesnt freeze your body up first..

Seek to avoid being a totalit5arians assistant
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:51 pm to
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I'm glad I got COVID and recovered.

Too bad I'm supposedly a second class citizen because my immune system works.


I'm not - I am superior humankind with my natural immunity - VASTLY SUPERIOR to the Vaxx Covidians..
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:55 pm to
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I'm not - I am superior humankind


Lol

Just shut up about boy getting the vaccine. No one cares.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20509 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:56 pm to
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I am glad that I rolled up my sleeve and proudly took my Moderna Trump vaccine.


Same. It was a personal decision and I respect everyone’s individual choice. I just have a friend same age as myself, in good shape and mid 30’s, and he’s still in ICU since mid July. That was enough for me. But people who feel the need to pressure others over a personal choice such as this “vaccine” (because it’s not really a vaccine) need to back off. And F this mandate talk.

Also, people downvoting this guy need to give it a rest. It’s a helpful article.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:00 pm to
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Same. It was a personal decision and I...
so you dont know anyone who passed from the vaxx yet?

I hope you dont - but think there will ultimately be much injury and death from the vaxx
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:00 pm to
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Just shut up about boy getting the vaccine. No one cares.

Oh yes they do care sparky
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20509 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:06 pm to
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so you dont know anyone who passed from the vaxx yet?


I know quite a few people who felt sick day after the second shot. It seems most of them were Pfizer, but some Moderna. Thankfully I didn’t have any symptoms. I don’t know anyone who had anything worse post vaccine.

I do however know multiple people who have been in the hospital for a long time now, and a small few who have not made it. I am also friends with several doctors here, and they were all assuring it is a good decision. Again, I just weighed what I was reading vs what I was experiencing personally, and I reached a conclusion. That’s just my personal experience and choice.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:12 pm to
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That’s just my personal experience and choice.

Good luck, crazy
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1168 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:13 pm to
important difference between Moderna immunity and natural. The T-cell response for Moderna is only in the presence of Covid spike protein. So, if the virus mutates so that the spike protein changes, there will be no immune response. With natural immunity the T-cells respond to a variety of different virus characteristics, including the spike protein, so even if the spike is altered natural immunity will respond
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5333 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:15 pm to
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Youve come to the wrong place


Was thinking the same thing.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:17 pm to
I won’t get the vaccine but was telling my wife earlier that if for some reason I do, my very uneducated research has me leaning towards Moderna
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34216 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:18 pm to
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In other words, booster shots probably aren't needed.


Time will tell. The data certainly is interesting.

My take:

Since when has actual data played a role in any of the CDC’s policy “recommendations” concerning Covid? I predict he you will be mandated to get your boosters...plural.
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7372 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:21 pm to
Pfizer withheld their clinical trial results for weeks until after the election so Trump couldn't ride the victory bump in the polls. Totally political decision probably cost lives. Screw Pfizer.

Waited around for awhile for more data and eventually got the Moderna and am so glad its kicking Pfizer's arse. I like to brag about it when I am around Biden loyalists who ran out to be first in line for the Pfizer jab.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:26 pm to
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quote:
Founders

Wellcome Trust[1][2]

Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation[1



CDC owns the intellectual property to the Moderna vaccine. Moderna was likely all but complete several years ago.
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
1892 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:18 am to
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In other words, booster shots probably aren't needed.

Boosters are essential for continued profit and expansion of the surveillance state.
How well they work or if they work at all is irrelevant.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 3:43 am to
This is yet another horseshite study, that they want the sheep to latch onto, and then propagandize the masses with it.

Reading for comprehension, would have been an important skill to use before posting this nonsense.
quote:

Participants received two injections of the trial vaccine 28 days apart between March and April of 2020

6 months from April 2020 is Oct 2020. We didnt even have the Moderna vaccine until Jan 2021 in the US, and this "just released study" (ahem, 1 year late) wants you to accept that Moderna is somehow similar to natural immunity. No one that posts on this board believes that a study done pre-Delta is valid in any way, shape, or form, at this point. Its horseshite

Dont let your teenager take this shite. Maintaining a social life is no trade-off for the unrealized side effects that we are starting to see.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17046 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:56 am to
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We didnt even have the Moderna vaccine until Jan 2021 in the US, and this "just released study


If you read the study, it says that they were studying Phase 1 trial participants. Phase 1 people are the first people ever to take the vaccine - months before it was approved under EUA.

So, no, there is nothing "horse shite" about it.
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