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MLK
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:17 am
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:17 am
I have read that he did not believe in the virgin birth of Jesus. He did not believe that Jesus was the Son of God. He received the Margaret Sanger award.
We know he was an adulterous man and falsified his writings
Don’t crucify me for this. I really don’t know for sure. Just would like to hear other opinions
We know he was an adulterous man and falsified his writings
Don’t crucify me for this. I really don’t know for sure. Just would like to hear other opinions
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:18 am to JimNat
I haven't heard those things (other than the adultery accusation) so I claim ignorance on it. If true, he was certainly a heretic.
ETA:
Found an essay he wrote about the Apostles' Creed. It's rather shallow and doesn't get into much detail, but in it he does cast doubt on the historicity and truth about Christ's virgin birth, Him being the literal son of God, and the resurrection, all critical doctrines to the Christian faith.
It was written in the late 40's so my hope is that he repented of those beliefs, if he sincerely held them, and that he repented of his sexual immorality.
ETA:
Found an essay he wrote about the Apostles' Creed. It's rather shallow and doesn't get into much detail, but in it he does cast doubt on the historicity and truth about Christ's virgin birth, Him being the literal son of God, and the resurrection, all critical doctrines to the Christian faith.
It was written in the late 40's so my hope is that he repented of those beliefs, if he sincerely held them, and that he repented of his sexual immorality.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 10:33 am
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:22 am to JimNat
MLK would be called an “Uncle Tom” by the left and mainstream black culture if he was around today
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:23 am to JimNat
Is a really good example of why you shouldn't deify people.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:29 am to Tantal
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Also quite the homophobe.
I thought that was standard for AA, especially back then
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:31 am to JimNat
I have some issues with the Doctrine of the Trinity myself, so I've spent years reading, researching and praying about the issue (the Trinities podcast is a good resource for this).
Long story short, along my studies and investigations I came across an interview with Coretta Scott King, MLK's widow. It was an interview with Unitarian Universalist clergy. She told him that she and Martin both liked UU beliefs, and wanted to join the UU's, but... and listen close here... neither of them thought that Southern blacks would buy into UU theology, and so MLK had to remain a Baptist, nominally, in order to achieve his political goals.
Summary: he wasn't really a Baptist. But he needed that identity in order to not lose followers to his cause.
Edit: went and found the interview here
Long story short, along my studies and investigations I came across an interview with Coretta Scott King, MLK's widow. It was an interview with Unitarian Universalist clergy. She told him that she and Martin both liked UU beliefs, and wanted to join the UU's, but... and listen close here... neither of them thought that Southern blacks would buy into UU theology, and so MLK had to remain a Baptist, nominally, in order to achieve his political goals.
Summary: he wasn't really a Baptist. But he needed that identity in order to not lose followers to his cause.
Edit: went and found the interview here
quote:
During an hour of wide-ranging conversation, I mentioned to her that I was in seminary to become a Unitarian Universalist minister. What frankly surprised me was the look she gave me, one of respect and delight.
“Oh, I went to Unitarian churches for years, even before I met Martin,” she told me, explaining that she had been, since college, a member of the Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom, which was popular among Unitarians and Universalists. “And Martin and I went to Unitarian churches when we were in Boston.”
What surprised and saddened me most was what she said next. Though I am paraphrasing, the gist of it was this: “We gave a lot of thought to becoming Unitarian at one time, but Martin and I realized we could never build a mass movement of black people if we were Unitarian.”
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:34 am to JimNat
The city of Birmingham spent millions to fix up the dilapidated motel where he used to take all his women to. Jackie Kennedy was right: "that man is terrible."
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:36 am to JimNat
I would like to see a link(s) on his theological stances. I’m well aware that he cheated on his wife. That’s actually quite common with pastors in the AA churches.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:38 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
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I’m well aware that he cheated on his wife.
Had a thing for white women. FBI has tapes of him during sex yelling "I'm not a n###### tonight!".
Don't take my word for it. Look it up.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:40 am to DesScorp
Again, well aware of his adultery; I had never heard he didn’t believe in the divinity of Christ Jesus though.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:41 am to JackieTreehorn
MLK was a flawed man who did great things.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:41 am to FooManChoo
quote:
Found an essay he wrote about the Apostles' Creed. It's rather shallow and doesn't get into much detail, but in it he does cast doubt on the historicity and truth about Christ's virgin birth, Him being the literal son of God, and the resurrection, all critical doctrines to the Christian faith.
It was written in the late 40's so my hope is that he repented of those beliefs, if he sincerely held them, and that he repented of his sexual immorality.
sounds like a Jew
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:49 am to JimNat
Thanks for replies fellows. I really don’t know. You have to be born again to see the Kingdom of God this I know to be true. If he and wife were involved in the Unitarian church beliefs then he was a wolf in sheep’s clothing
I hope he did repent before he died
Thanks for not turning this topic into a fight
I hope he did repent before he died
Thanks for not turning this topic into a fight
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:53 am to JimNat
He was a communist, but he's now a paragon of American values and milquetoast "conservatives" trip over themselves to defend his legacy.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:53 am to JimNat
quote:Yeah me either. True believer in God, but a virgin giving birth? Not possible
virgin birth of Jesus
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:15 am to JimNat
IF....and I mean IF he believed this
I'll be he wishes he believed differently but he won't have to worry about the virus bc heat kills the virus
quote:
he did not believe in the virgin birth of Jesus. He did not believe that Jesus was the Son of God
I'll be he wishes he believed differently but he won't have to worry about the virus bc heat kills the virus
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:17 am to ChexMix
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True believer in God, but a virgin giving birth? Not possible
I mean, not sure how you can say it's not possible for a virgin to give birth but also believe in God, something that shouldn't be possible either under the same set of logical reasoning. Possible for God to create the universe, but not possible for him to create a divine virgin birth?
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 11:20 am
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:18 am to lsufball19
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I mean, not sure how you can say it's not possible for a virgin to give birth but also believe in God, something that shouldn't be possible either under the same set of logical reasoning
This isn't true at all.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:20 am to ChexMix
quote:Not possible naturally, but that's sort of the point. It was done miraculously as an evidence that Jesus was born of God.
Yeah me either. True believer in God, but a virgin giving birth? Not possible
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