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Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:53 pm to L.A.
Probably has more to do with them being black than it does with the AIDS
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:57 pm to buckeye_vol
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Well transmission without the gloves would be extremely unlikely unless she has an open wound and that somehow came in contact with blood and even then it would still be less than likely.
Yeah, so she would know the location of every inch of broken skin on every child, right? That's crazy that anyone should expect her to take that precaution, right?
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Yeah it's counterproductive, but again that's primarily related to all the other germs.
It increases her risks dramatically. But it's about HIV, not other germs.
I absolutely do not blame her for wearing gloves. I would do the same, but I would never eat while wearing them.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:58 pm to Lsuchs
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Lsuchs
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:03 pm to upgrayedd
quote:I'm just saying that the risk is very low regardless. When the risk was near 0 without gloves, then gloves aren't going to have much impact.
Yeah, so she would know the location of every inch of broken skin on every child, right? That's crazy that anyone should expect her to take that precaution, right?
It's not a big deal either way, but I'm just pointing out that it was not going to do much in regard to HIV.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:03 pm to Lsuchs
quote:There have been an incredibly low number of healthcare workers being infected with the HIV virus since the early 80s. Most of those were the result of some "sharp" incident/accident. They didn't put gloves in the hospital rooms until the early 2000s unless the patient was in isolation. Seems the the infection rate should be higher, huh?
You mention working at a hospital and not wearing gloves sometimes not knowing if a person has HIV or not. Obviously knowing could make someone more cautious as there is a potential (not likely) of an action resulting in your death that wouldn't exist otherwise
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:07 pm to Diamondawg
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There have been an incredibly low number of healthcare workers being infected with the HIV virus since the early 80s
I don't doubt it. But there that still means there were a number. So while unlikely, it clearly could make people more cautious.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:07 pm to buckeye_vol
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It's not a big deal either way, but I'm just pointing out that it was not going to do much in regard to HIV.
Point taken. I completely disagree.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:08 pm to Lsuchs
quote:Sure, but if it's unlikely in that setting, it's even more unlikely in this story's setting. Still not a big deal.
I don't doubt it. But there that still means there were a number. So while unlikely, it clearly could make people more cautious.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:08 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:14 pm to L.A.
I bet 0% of the people angrily tweeting at her have never fed HIV positive orphans with or without gloves so screw them.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:18 pm to Lsuchs
quote:Yeah - under a couple of hundred since the 80s with billions, if not trillions of interactions between healthcare providers and patients.
I don't doubt it. But there that still means there were a number.
ETA - someone get losh to run the numbers.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:24 pm to Diamondawg
You act like I'm arguing it's a huge risk to be around a person with HIV lol
What's so hard to understand about someone being more cautious around potential danger than they would be otherwise? That's all I've been saying
What's so hard to understand about someone being more cautious around potential danger than they would be otherwise? That's all I've been saying
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:32 pm to Lsuchs
quote:Well, then back to my original point. If she felt like she had to wear gloves; don't go. Might it have offended the kids that she was visiting? No idea. They are probably used to it. It just seems ridiculous, to me.
hat's all I've been saying
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:36 pm to Diamondawg
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Well, then back to my original point. If she felt like she had to wear gloves; don't go
Fair enough, agree to disagree.
People take simple precautions for all kinds of things that aren't absolutely necessary. Doesn't mean they should not partake in the activity if they won't do so without taking any. IMO
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:54 pm to the808bass
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You do you, Miss South Africa.
She needs to do me
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:55 pm to OneFifty
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Lack of Falcon's Super Bowl championship shirts?
Or Madame President t shirts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:19 pm to buckeye_vol
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That makes a lot of sense and should be the case. Is that true though?
The article that was posted on the OT on Monday said it was the case.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:30 pm to L.A.
Has no one thought of the kids here? They have HIV, which weakens the immune system. HIV/AIDS patients die of other diseases they can't fight off because of their HIV/AIDS. She was protecting the kids from HER germs. Pretty simple explanation for anyone with half a brain, IMO.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:35 pm to notslim99
quote:Males sense, especially since they apparently had all of the people handling food wear gloves.
Has no one thought of the kids here? They have HIV, which weakens the immune system. HIV/AIDS patients die of other diseases they can't fight off because of their HIV/AIDS. She was protecting the kids from HER germs. Pretty simple explanation for anyone with half a brain, IMO.
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