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re: Minnesota Shooter: Let's Wait for the Facts

Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:18 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:18 am to
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So a guy kills a couple of Democrats because they voted with Republicans on an issue and people think a Trump supporter is behind it???


I don't know WHY Boelter did what he did. Neither do you. You're not even familiar with the facts enough to know how many legislators he killed.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:19 am to
I’m sure an obscure Twitter account will appear momentarily with the smoking gun that proves the shooter was a trans person seeking an abortion on their way to a satanic ritual.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:20 am to
Sloflohomo is the Don Quixote of the poliboard.

You slap those windmills little SFP, slap em hard and hit em with your purse!

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:20 am to
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I don't know WHY Boelter did what he did. Neither do you.


Probably mental illness.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8366 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:20 am to
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No. I'm arguing for reality against NPC groupthink.


No, you are trying to convince yourself how much smarter you are than everybody else, just like fricking lawyers live to do.

Several other lawyers are assholes just like you.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:22 am to
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Boelter's best friend and roommate David Carlson told local news outlet KARE11 he is an avid Donald Trump supporter and voted for the Republican candidate.


Yes. I posted a video discussing that news report last night:

Mash Here.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:23 am to
Sorry but the sermons are likely ai

He was lib and nothing anyone can try to do will change that - all the trusted right media Twitter accounts had the goods yesterday on this guy and their track record is 1000x better than wired or the msm at large.

Sorry libs but your side is the mentally ill side we are the stable geniuses


I know it hurts your psyche and your pride to know you’re on the side of complete nut job murderers, but I’m sure you’re used to it by now
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:25 am to
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No, you are trying to convince yourself how much smarter you are than everybody else,

Wrong thread to try that ad hom

My argument in this thread doesn't require more than a 100 IQ
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 8:29 am
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:26 am to
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As the facts come in, it's clear that the shooter is NOT some crazy Leftist.


I'm not convinced this isn't another FF psyop and predictive programming to foment more division and paranoia. ("They" desperately want Martial Law)

First there were reports of this guy and his "partner" allegedly working for Tim Walz and "No Kings" paraphernalia found in his car (?).

NOW there's a supposed evidence that the "shooter" (as you'd posted) was preaching sermons at an Evangelical church in the Congo, preaching against abortion and trans.

Totally conflicting profiles. But the latter (as a "Bible-thumping Evangelical) seems too convenient a narrative. I call bulls**t.

Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1942 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:28 am to
quote:

I don't know WHY Boelter did what he did. Neither do you. You're not even familiar with the facts enough to know how many legislators he killed.


no bill the problem is we know exactly why he did it you're pretending you don't because your party's over the top rhetoric is behind it. and yes it's a bad look so was burning down LA maybe it will be a distant memory by the midterms, maybe not. you're not going to change hearts and minds on the poli board today. in the OP you mentioned that you were getting ready to go to church maybe you should commence with that.

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2854 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:28 am to
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I pray that you aren't as twisted and nasty as your posts.


Whatever it is an unhinged lunatic. Pay him/her/it no attention.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8993 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:28 am to
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How
long
should
we
wait?


The theory that he shot them because of their votes on health care is awfully specific without one shred of corroboratinng evidence. Had Boelter ever said anything about the subject???

What does his (alleged) manifesto say? Granted, after watching the Fall of Minneapolis, I don't have much trust in Leftist Minnesota law enforcement officials. Keith Ellison should be in jail.

I started this thread just because I thought the issue was eating too much of the Lord's Day. I will give it another 30 minutes to keep responding. I simply don't think we have enough facts, but Boelter's preaching makes me think that he isn't a Leftist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:30 am to
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Sorry but the sermons are likely ai


The prophecy has begun
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8993 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:37 am to
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no bill the problem is we know exactly


The bill passed by three votes. Hers wasn't even necessary. So, we DON'T know why she was murdered.

Service doesn't start until 10:00 Central.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84992 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:37 am to
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I started this thread just because I thought the issue was eating too much of the Lord's Day.
Why this specific thread?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8993 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:38 am to
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Totally conflicting profiles. But the latter (as a "Bible-thumping Evangelical) seems too convenient a narrative. I call bulls**t.



Maybe more will come out and you'll be right.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:47 am to
This is a copy/paste from another thread, but I felt it would help your fact-finding mission.

- - - - - - -

I just paid $12 for a 1-year access to Wired

quote:

The 57-year-old, who has been identified as the suspected shooter by law enforcement, runs an armed security service with his wife, and has been affiliated with at least one evangelical organization, a ministry he has also run with his wife, according to a tax filing reviewed by WIRED. (His wife could not be immediately reached for comment.) According to public records and archived websites reviewed by WIRED, the suspect served for a time as the president of Revoformation Ministries. A version of the ministry’s website captured in 2011 carries a biography in which he is said to have been ordained in 1993.


This will be the crucial variable, I reckon:

quote:

A Facebook profile under the suspected shooter’s name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him “liking” several evangelical missionary organizations, as well as pages honoring Reinhard Bonnke, a German pentecostal evangelist known for missions in several African countries, and Smith Wigglesworth, a British evangelist who was influential in the pentecostal movement. He also “liked” the Alliance Defending Freedom, a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.


quote:

A later version of the site was designed, according to an archived copy, by Israeli web design firm J-Town. Charlie Kalech, CEO of J-Town, tells WIRED that the alleged suspect was, in his recollection, “clearly religious and evangelistic. He had lots of ideas to make the world a better place.” The suspect, whom Kalech said was “nothing but nice to me,” commissioned J-Town, Kalech recalled, because they’re Jerusalem-based, and he said he wanted to support Israel.


This part is verified

Here is a ministry Go Fund Me

Wayback machine for the church website

Unless the Deep State started this con in 2012 when Obama was President, the reporting is pretty verified.


While looking, here is an unrelated Substack article I found titled, "On the Christian Education of Dr. Vance Boelter"



quote:

This is a photograph I took in March 2024 of the lobby of Christ for the Nations Institute, a Bible college in Dallas that the Minnesota political murders suspect, Vance Boelter, appears online to have claimed as part of the education that entitled him to use the title of “Dr. Vance Boelter,” security expert.


quote:

This idea about violent-prayer-a-day? It’s that of the founder of Christ for the Nations Institute, Gordon Lindsay—the man with the dimple and the tie-pin. Lindsay was born in 1906, in what was then called Zion City, Illinois (today just Zion). It had only recently been established as a “Christian utopia”—or, some said, a massive exercise in securities fraud perpetrated by faith healer John Alexander Dowie, of whom Lindsay’s father was a follower. As a young man, Lindsay would attribute to another faith healer his own recovering from “poisoning,” via exposure to this verse from the Book of Acts—seen here as depicted in a movie about Lindsay made by Christ for the Nations—sometimes taken by antisemites that Jews are “Christ-killers.”
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1942 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:48 am to
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I started this thread just because I thought the issue was eating too much of the Lord's Day. I will give it another 30 minutes to keep responding. I simply don't think we have enough facts, but Boelter's preaching makes me think that he isn't a Leftist.


yeah well here's what we do know bill is that he was appointed by tampon tim walz to the minnesota work force development board and his wife was a congressional staffer for walz so we have a pretty good idea about his political affiliation.

don't worry about me bill i'm going to 5:30 mass at the cathedral so i've got all day to make you look like the lying idiot that you actually are!
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8993 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:50 am to
quote]Why this specific thread?[/quote]

As I woke up on the Lord's Day, the first thing I did was feverishly scroll to see if I could find evidence that Boelter's wife had actually interned for Walz. Then it hit me...is THIS how you should be preparing to worship?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84992 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:51 am to
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he first thing I did was feverishly scroll to see if I could find evidence that Boelter's wife had actually interned for Walz.


quote:

Then it hit me...is THIS how you should be preparing to worship?


Did you do the same with say the assassination attempt on Trump?
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 8:53 am
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