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re: Minnesota Shooter: Let's Wait for the Facts

Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:52 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:52 am to
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yeah well here's what we do know bill is that he was appointed by tampon tim walz to the minnesota work force development board and his wife was a congressional staffer for walz so we have a pretty good idea about his political affiliation.


Way back machine for his church's website from 2018
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:52 am to
Everyone dodged a bullet not electing Harris/Walz
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:52 am to
You will go to the grave to defend lefty loons
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:53 am to
The Wired article cites many of the same elements that the Religious News article did. I would think that you would recognize the Religious News article is probably the main source. Which returns to my original question, have you ever heard of them before yesterday?

And a follow on question. If all of this reporting is true, do you think somehow this impugns all Christians? That they all hold similar values (or lack thereof) on the sanctify of life?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:53 am to
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You will go to the grave to defend lefty loons

Totes independent don't you know.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:54 am to
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I have already spent too much time on this.


You quite clearly didn't spend much time on this at all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476332 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:54 am to
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You will go to the grave to defend lefty loons

a. How am I defending any person?

b. I'm providing evidence the shooter wasn't even a lefty.
Posted by CC
Galveztown
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:55 am to
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Everyone dodged a bullet not electing Harris/Walz
Not everyone.
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:55 am to
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You will go to the grave to defend lefty loons


Every single time.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:56 am to
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his wife was a congressional staffer for walz


What started this whole thing for me is that I couldn't find any evidence of this. Do you have a source for the fact that his wife was a congressional staffer? Thank you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476332 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:56 am to
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The Wired article cites many of the same elements that the Religious News article did.

HOLY shite.

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I would think that you would recognize the Religious News article is probably the main source


Lord grant me the strength

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If all of this reporting is true, do you think somehow this impugns all Christians?

No. Not in any way. He was clearly off his rocker and crazy and the only implications of guilt would apply to people in his close circle who supported him (like apparently his wife). This is how I treat all of these crazies, from school shooters to leftist crazies to righty crazies to MAGA crazies and even the nihilist crazies (like the Palm Springs shooter)
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 8:57 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:56 am to
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Way back machine for his church's website from 2018
The site did exist. The problem is, all of the sub-pages are dead links. Other than it existing at some time, you have no idea what it said. And how prevalent the positions it took were (or were not). As an evangelical Christian, I have never heard of the Revoformation before I saw your link.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:57 am to
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You quite clearly didn't spend much time on this at all.


What? On Sunday morning, I took time to respond to most of the insults.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:59 am to
Every day you sink further into the abyss of stupidity, here is the logic you are trying to make sense: a Trump supporter decides to kill a couple of state legislators after one of them voted on a bill that he would logically support. To support this conclusion you are using old sermon notes? Newsflash, there are a LOT of liberals who believe one thing religiously but vote for progressive politicians. I know several in my own circle of coworkers and friends
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:59 am to
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You will go to the grave to defend lefty loons


Staunch conservative problems
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127358 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:59 am to
Enlighten me brilliant one. And also answer my question of you having seen Religion News Service prior to yesterday. I recognize I am dealing with someone who believed the Steele dossier so I am being patient (to the best of my ability).
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:01 am to
You're trying too hard, dicklick.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:02 am to
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The site did exist. The problem is, all of the sub-pages are dead links. Other than it existing at some time, you have no idea what it said. And how prevalent the positions it took were (or were not). As an evangelical Christian, I have never heard of the Revoformation before I saw your link.


Gotcha, fam

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Posted by dickkellog
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Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:04 am to
let me just cut you off at the pass homey i don't give a schit about anything you would reply to me, for the record, i don't believe you're a lawyer, i think anyone that post 1/2 a million times on the poli board is probably on social security disability because you sure as he11 don't have a real job and you're not a real person

are we clear?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90499 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:05 am to
Okay so what are you proving?
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