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re: Minnesota Shooter: Let's Wait for the Facts

Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by Richleau
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:51 pm to
And the video I posted refutes that. No way to tell for sure but Webb provides direct testimony, evidence of figures around the situation and sums up the ties to Africa. I mean, why else would most Somalis end up in Minnesota? Have you been to Minneapolis/St. Paul lately? The numbers of Somali immigrants there in particular are staggering.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:53 pm to
No need to worry about what you can’t change. It’s an effective tool when used appropriately. Kind of like Picard talking to “computer” on the enterprise. Same benefit, just can’t let it steer the ship is all.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:53 pm to
They have an entire part of Minneapolis called Little Mogadishu for a reason
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:58 pm to
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And the video I posted refutes that.

The video you posted is a guy rambling.

I posted literal, undisputed facts.

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and sums up the ties to Africa.

That's funny, I posted an Evangelical sermon he gave....in Africa.

I also posted his Evangelical church's website from 10+ years ago, along with a page about his own interpretive method for the Bible.

He graduated a long time ago from a Bible College in TX.

Nothing indicates any association with Islam, and he would be killed by actual African radical Muslims for his association with Christian organizations in Africa.

Also, Keith Ellison was on the hit list.

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I mean, why else would most Somalis end up in Minnesota? Have you been to Minneapolis/St. Paul lately? The numbers of Somali immigrants there in particular are staggering.


Somalis are Muslim. He's not. I don't think he's even associated with Somalia and is more associated with Congo.

Here's a FB Video I just found (via NYP) about a summit in...Congo
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:59 pm to
Don’t deflect, that’s exactly what you did in consecutive posts to me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:01 pm to
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Don’t deflect, that’s exactly what you did in consecutive posts to me.


You said

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you don’t get to use then deny the same characteristics whenever it suits you,


Define what you meant by "same characteristics"
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66736 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:02 pm to
Nope, stop lying
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:04 pm to
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Nope, stop lying


I asked a question
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:05 pm to
A question using non related post in place of the posts I mentioned. You couldn’t be more dishonest
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:05 pm to
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A question using non related post

It used your last post on the subject

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in place of the posts I mentioned.

I used YOUR post

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66736 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:06 pm to
And I just described why it’s dishonest. Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:06 pm to
You're the only one hung up on his Christian background. It's a live conversation covering a lot of topics, of course it's going to be a bit rambling. He's not a minister. And you're discounting his background with Praetorean securities, Tim Waltz, etc. You're hyperfocused on one thing, not seeing the big picture. Perhaps at least entertain there may be more to the story than one item? If the mission is to groom domestic terrorism to garner for resources for the FBI, then what does it matter their background or religion? Keith Ellison Muslim Brotherhood

I think Webb's explanation ties a lot more together than him giving a sermon in Africa.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66736 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:07 pm to
He also pretends that there are no self described Democrat Catholics when our last president was openly catholic. There are also tons of Christian faith left wing churches all over the country which has been a very public issue of contention in this country.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 6:12 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:11 pm to
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by SlowFlowPro


O/U 14.5 pages


Page 21 of 21.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:13 pm to
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The echo chamber narrative
Nonresponsive.
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I'm literally countering
You're LITERALLY simping for the dishonest left on this.

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The truth is what I'm promoting
Negative. Sorry. You're "promoting" what the left hopes you'll promote ... a false association. The only difference is, most folks willing to take that step get compensated for it.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467158 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:14 pm to
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You're the only one hung up on his Christian background.

Because it's pretty indicative of his political stances, especially as they relate to leftism.

There are very, very few Evangelical Christian Leftists.

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And you're discounting his background with Praetorean securities, Tim Waltz, etc.

He has no real background with Walz

As for the security company...

LINK

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Authorities said Boelter disguised himself as a law enforcement officer during the attack and news reports have focused on his apparent work as a security professional. But NPR's review of Boelter's online records and employment history found many of those claims about his professional life appear untrue.

In social media posts and websites, Boelter said he had extensive experience as a security professional with "training by both private security firms and by people in the U.S. Military."

NPR found little evidence to support Boelter's account. He appears to have worked most of his career in the food service industry and one long-time friend described parts of Boelter's narrative about his life as "fantasy."


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On the website for a company called Praetorian Guard Security Services, LLC, Boelter described himself as part of the "leadership team."

NPR found no record of the firm having clients or providing any services. A call to the company's phone number connected to what appears to be a private phone line, not a business. The address listed in incorporation papers appeared to be that of a law firm specializing in divorce litigation.

Boelter himself appears to have no history working in law enforcement, the military or private security.


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f the mission is to groom domestic terrorism to garner for resources for the FBI, then what does it matter their background or religion?

To African Muslims? Everything.

And, again, he has no real ties to Somalia. He has a lot of ties to the Congo. They're not even located in the same area of Africa. They are comprised of completely different ethnic groups. They don't speak the same language. Congo is very Christian. Somalia is very Muslim.

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I think Webb's explanation ties a lot more together than him giving a sermon in Africa.

The problem is he has no glue to hold it together. He tries to connect dots and some of those connections (see the Congo v. Somalia above) are hilariously weak.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66736 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:14 pm to
Well his posts about “the facts” encapsulate what he’s doing. Dismissing any fact contrary to his ideology while spinning and lying about the facts he does recognize.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467158 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:14 pm to
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He also pretends that there are no self described Democrat Catholics

I said no such thing

Evangelicals =/= Catholics (which we DID discuss previously)

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467158 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:15 pm to
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You're LITERALLY simping for the dishonest left on this.

How?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66736 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:15 pm to
You really think lying about it is going to help your argument?
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