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re: Minnesota Shooter: Let's Wait for the Facts

Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:23 pm to
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The obsession with wanting this guy to be a dem is beyond stupid

I think it's fair to want to know his legit political leanings. It's not like the American Right hasn't been labeled white supremacist Nazis that are the biggest threat to the Homeland by the American Left, while arguably there are more racists and more violence on the Left.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467108 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:24 pm to
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how many MAGA types


What do "MAGA types" have to do with the price of tea in China?
Posted by TigerRoyale
Zwolle
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:24 pm to
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If it's a bipartisan board it doesn't matter


Bipartisan? Nice try. Your people own this.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21876 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:25 pm to
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Catholic

Not Evangelical Christian.

So?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170755 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:26 pm to
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I think it's fair to want to know his legit political leanings.

No one really wants to know the truth though

They just want to argue until they're blue in the face that this guy is a democrat. The evidence doesn't seem to indicate a strong lean either way. There are plenty of people that don't fit somewhere on the left/right binary political spectrum. If he was absolutely a far left guy with no other considerations then why go after democrats?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467108 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:27 pm to
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So?


The shooter was all 3

Each layer eliminates a huge portion of the population. All 3 combined are pretty damning and rare (for Leftsits)
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9036 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:27 pm to
Thanks. Forgot about Cuellar. But, without any evidence to the contrary, I think it safe to say that someone pro-life and against the idea that there are more than two genders is unlikely to be a Leftist.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467108 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Your people own this.


Powerman is not an Evangelical Christian
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21876 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:30 pm to
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No one really wants to know the truth though

Some people do, and I agree with you - he's likely a hodgepodge of political positions, like many are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467108 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:31 pm to
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he's likely a hodgepodge of political positions, like many are


What we know for sure (what I've posted) is pretty specifically within the same brand.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467108 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:34 pm to
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orgot about Cuellar. But, without any evidence to the contrary, I think it safe to say that someone pro-life and against the idea that there are more than two genders is unlikely to be a Leftist.


Cuellar describes himself as a "moderate centrist"

Which is nothing like a Leftist
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21876 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:35 pm to
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The shooter was all 3

And that has exactly nothing to do with the exchange between the Ivorybill guy and me.

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Each layer eliminates a huge portion of the population. All 3 combined are pretty damning and rare (for Leftsits)

Tell us, what percentage of voters right of center are anti-abortion, anti-men in girls bathrooms and evangelical? Is it 8% or 17% - what is it?

Also, can a Catholic be an evangelical?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7938 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:38 pm to
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If it's a bipartisan board it doesn't matter


It is not a bipartisan board. It is virtually 100% democrat with 2 political appointees that are republican one from the senate and one from the house.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21876 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:40 pm to
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Thanks. Forgot about Cuellar. But, without any evidence to the contrary, I think it safe to say that someone pro-life and against the idea that there are more than two genders is unlikely to be a Leftist.

Define "unlikely" - we're throwing labels and words around here in an pretty convenient way.

Is unlikely less than 50%? Okay, yes - it's less than 50/50 that a pro-life, anti-tranny voter is on the Left.

I'm about as conservative as you'll find pretty much anywhere, but I'm against capital punishment and there's a healthy percentage of strong conservatives with me on that. But it's UNLIKELY that a voter that is against capital punishment is conservative.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467108 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:40 pm to
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Also, can a Catholic be an evangelical?


Evangelical denotes protestant, I reckon.

The term "Evangelical Catholic" is Lutheran, even.

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Tell us, what percentage of voters right of center are anti-abortion, anti-men in girls bathrooms and evangelical? Is it 8% or 17% - what is it?

I could try to guestimate, but that's not really the focus.

The pertinent question is how many Leftists are all 3. If there are 1000 in the US today I'd be utterly shocked.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467108 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:40 pm to
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Is unlikely less than 50%?

It's way less than 0.1%
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17647 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:43 pm to
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The obsession with wanting this guy to be a dem is beyond stupid


I wouldn't say I "wanted" him to be a Dem. However I was relieved to know that he is.

...and was not in the least bit surprised. This is what they are. They're simply following orders.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467108 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:45 pm to
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However I was relieved to know that he is.

...and was not in the least bit surprised.

You clearly haven't followed this story if you're calling him clearly a DEM
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21876 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:46 pm to
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The pertinent question is how many Leftists are all 3. If there are 1000 in the US today I'd be utterly shocked.

Then you don't understand math.

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Evangelical denotes protestant, I reckon.

I thought evangelical was about a biblical focus, some sort of personal transformation and proselytizing. There are many Catholics that can describe.

By thew way, evangelical Catholics are a thing -

https://evangelicalcatholic.org/
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21876 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:47 pm to
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It's way less than 0.1%

You really do struggle with this one.
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