re: Mike Pence and the legacy media are really upset Trump used the term "Jan 6 hostages".

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The left uses language as a weapon. We need to be precise.

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Perhaps. They just as often use imprecision to their advantage, though. I don't know that I'm advocating that, but it's undeniably part of how they push forward.

Maybe there's something to be said to Gumbo's point, but I don't see how calling them "political prisoners" would serve to highlight the issue less than calling them "hostages" in this scenario.

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Perhaps. They just as often use imprecision to their advantage, though. I don't know that I'm advocating that, but it's undeniably part of how they push forward.

Maybe there's something to be said to Gumbo's point, but I don't see how calling them "political prisoners" would serve to highlight the issue less than calling them "hostages" in this scenario.

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I've learned from professional persuader Scott Adams that vibe trumps narrative and narrative trumps facts.

Conservatives love to argue with facts. In a mathematical model facts win. In the media environment narrative can overcome facts. Vibe is emotional and impacts culture and can overcome facts and narrative.

The word "hostage" conjures up more emotion that potentially leads to vibe. The immediate emotion is that "hostages" generate is the need to be freed.

As Scott Adams would say "hostages" is a kill shot.

Hostages don’t go through a judicial process.

That’s how I’d respond if I was one of the tboy klan.

Short People Got No Reason...

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But, they are more like political prisoners than hostages.

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A distinction without a difference.