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re: Michigan Auto Worker Assembles a Beautiful Response - Tariffs

Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:10 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:10 am to
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But somehow we are convinced that making the world more expensive and less efficient is good because the UAW is in favor what is happening.


What I've learned since 2016 is just how malleable even smart people are and how susceptible they are to talking points and group association.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:13 am to
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What I've learned since 2016 is just how malleable even smart people are and how susceptible they are to talking points and group association.


I don’t even talk politics anymore in real life with people. Social media has been a scourge on the intellectual ability of so many I know.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:17 am to
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If they're crying, I think we're doing something right.


This should be Trump’s motto.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:22 am to
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What I've learned since 2016 is just how malleable even smart people are and how susceptible they are to talking points and group association.


I get that politicians can be persuasive, people change, whatever. I get thinking that tariffs will protect us and we'll have Mayberry again. I disagree but I get it.

What I don't get are the basic logical contradictions. Tariffs can protect industry by raising prices, no question. But people will argue in the next sentence that prices won't go up because the importer will eat them. Ask them how that helps protect American workers and they either never respond, they respond with a complete non sequitur or you get some version of "well, it just does".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:29 am to
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What I don't get are the basic logical contradictions.


Talking points >

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Tariffs can protect industry by raising prices, no question. But people will argue in the next sentence that prices won't go up because the importer will eat them.

They will then double down by saying the tariffs will bring jobs back without raising prices for consumers

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Ask them how that helps protect American workers and they either never respond, they respond with a complete non sequitur or you get some version of "well, it just does".

Or they just shift the goal to "fair trade!" and ignore the "bring jobs back" goal.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:32 am to
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Some union baw with a 10th grade education. No wonder this country is fricked.


And what has congress been full of for generations?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:36 am to
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Michigan Auto Worker Assembles a Beautiful Response - Tariffs



So Ford and GM stock must have really gotten a boost this week, right?

If this guy is involved in a profit sharing stock plan, I'd be curious to know what his stock has done this week. Because American auto company stocks have been in the shitter as well. Ford stock is down about 10% the last two days.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:48 am to
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So now UAW members are experts on the economy


I didn't hear him claiming to be an expert. He was stating his opinion, just as you are.

Please, tell us what he said that wasn't accurate??
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:49 am to
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10% the last two days.
Never to return!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:55 am to
Just like Pete Hegseth was an expert on larger military matters .
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5272 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:58 am to
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if those jobs aren't efficient given the market.

got to be honest....I have no f'ing clue what an "efficient" job may be.


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Having to subsidize jobs to overpay them to make them economically viable is leftist bullshite that hurts the economy.

we agree 100%.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:01 am to
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got to be honest....I have no f'ing clue what an "efficient" job may be.

I'll put it in simpler terms: the productivity of the jobs isn't worth the salary.

Make sense now?

Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:09 am to
Nice.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:10 am to
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So now UAW members are experts on the economy?


You don't have to be an expert on the economy to see the crying about all this is bullshite, for the EXACT reasons he brought up. F@ggot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:10 am to
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You don't have to be an expert on the economy to see the crying about all this is bullshite,
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:11 am to
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So now UAW members are experts on the economy?


And that is exactly why unions will be the next leftist idea that rightist populists will embrace.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2694 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:11 am to
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If tariffs are so economically bad, why don’t all the other nations of the world just abolish them?


Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2694 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:13 am to
Pro union? Because we agreed with a few statements made by a UAW guy? Because nothing he said was false. What were we supposed to disagree with, or are we supposed to prove ourselves as "true conservatives," and shite on what he said, even when true, because he's an UAW member?

Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2694 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:15 am to
Remember when Roger was crying about park rangers being laid off a few weeks ago?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:17 am to
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Pro union? Because we agreed with a few statements made by a UAW guy?


Youre entire union stance is a union grift.

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