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re: Michael Brown robbed store hours before his death ?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:30 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:30 am to mmcgrath
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As for the burned down store, was that retaliation for calling 911?
Is this the same store that was burned down? Holy shite they tried to hide the evidence if so!
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:31 am to onmymedicalgrind
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This is very suscpicious. If he did just commit a crime on tape, you really think the police wouldnt have stated from day one that Brown was a suspect in a violent robbery???
Does it matter if its true? The main witness has changed his story three times. Is that suspicious?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:32 am to Lsut81
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The police report confirms Brown was involved in the strong arm robbery... It is still irrelevant to the circumstances of the shooting. But def affects non-AA's perception of things.
FIFY
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:32 am to C
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Is this the same store that was burned down?
No, the robbery took place at a different store.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:33 am to kilo
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This is very suscpicious. If he did just commit a crime on tape, you really think the police wouldnt have stated from day one that Brown was a suspect in a violent robbery???
Maybe the cops were trying to show compassion to the family who just lost their son in a tragic way.
Man, just like the Zimmerman case, the more I learn the more I hate believing the sensationalized media.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:34 am to novabill
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seem to tend to think that since the guy did something bad before the encounter, he likely deserved what he got.
I don't think anything about this because I KNOW I do not have all the facts. I don't know the kid did anything to deserve what happened and I don't know the cop was unjustified.
I do know there are a shitload of people out there stirring up shite (and people responding to the shite-stirring) based on the same incomplete picture I have.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:35 am to a want
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When a person is given a set of facts, he will come to a conclusion based on those facts. When a new facts are available, that person may come to a different conclusion.
Of course such conclusion before being concreted should involve some form of evaluation of said 'facts' being presented and who is presenting them. Given the trend analysis of such high profile events, only the most naïve would not take any presentation, either way with a grain of salt. It wasn't that long ago that the media effectively presented Trayvon through a 12 year old boy picture for the sole purpose of trying to frame opinion. And we expected this to be different because..... And again, he may very well have turned out to be the angel - but the folks making that claim had a slight bias that a rational person would consider before taking it and running with it - wouldn't you say? Heaven forbid a little professional skepticism and thought.
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Who is the idiot?
Those who accepted the words of those with the most bias and built that as a foundation for events that led to extreme violence and millions of dollars of damage
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:35 am to rb
Should be fairly easy to figure out if it was him since he was supposedly killed shortly after the strong-armed robbery occurred.
That being said it is irrelevant if he was killed as the witness described - running, shot in the back, turned with hands up and then killed.
ETA: Cops should wear cameras 24/7...the unknown and the questions into facts and the cops identity have fueled this fire.
That being said it is irrelevant if he was killed as the witness described - running, shot in the back, turned with hands up and then killed.
ETA: Cops should wear cameras 24/7...the unknown and the questions into facts and the cops identity have fueled this fire.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 10:37 am
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:36 am to C
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I learn the more I hate believing the sensationalized media
You are just learning this? We landed on the moon!
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:37 am to novabill
Those witnesses looked reliable.
Cops can't even get people in the hood to speak up about murders, but these same people are to be believed without any scepticism !!! OK.
I don't think a cop would shoot someone because he hit him (not in front of multi witnesses
) but the more likely probability is as the cop was putting the kid in the car he was attacked and shot the guy. If the cop shot a fleeing suspect he needs to go to jail.
The evidence should tell the story.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:41 am to S.E.C. Crazy
The eye witness is reportedly a friend of the deceased, and a suspect in the robbery. Anybody think he'd lie to law enforcement to save his own skin? I'm speculating with reasonable prejudice.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:42 am to cave canem
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Whether the kid was an angel or not is irrelevant to the shooting itself
so him being an armed robbery suspect is irrelevant?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:43 am to onmymedicalgrind
The police department needs to replace their PR person, or who ever told them to release this now.
While it may not be the case, on first glance it appears releasing this info at this time was done only to throw dirt on Brown.
While it may not be the case, on first glance it appears releasing this info at this time was done only to throw dirt on Brown.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:43 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
I agree it is relevant in the court of public opinion, but it does not change the facts of the shooting.
The cop could be justified or not, regardless of the whether the robbery occurred or not.
I can see the cop being more on edge if he thought he was encountering a robbery suspect, but that is not the big issue here. The big issue is the shooting.
Was the cop put in a position where he felt he had to use deadly force to protect himself. If so, then robbery or not he is justified. If the cop did not feel in danger, robbery or not, then he is not justified in the shooting.
The cop could be justified or not, regardless of the whether the robbery occurred or not.
I can see the cop being more on edge if he thought he was encountering a robbery suspect, but that is not the big issue here. The big issue is the shooting.
Was the cop put in a position where he felt he had to use deadly force to protect himself. If so, then robbery or not he is justified. If the cop did not feel in danger, robbery or not, then he is not justified in the shooting.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:44 am to kilo
two completely different stories:
and then theres this:
one of these makes no sense.
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Jackson said Wilson, along with other officers, was called to the area after a 911 call reporting a "strong-arm" robbery just before noon. He said a dispatcher gave a description of the robbery suspect, and Wilson, who had been assisting on another call, was sent to investigate. Wilson, a six-year veteran of the police department, encountered Brown just after 12:01 p.m., with a second officer arriving three minutes later, Jackson said.
Police have said Brown was shot after an officer encountered him and another man on the street. They say one of the men pushed the officer into his squad car, then physically assaulted him in the vehicle and struggled with the officer over the officer's weapon. At least one shot was fired inside the car before the struggle spilled onto the street, where Brown was shot multiple times, according to police.
and then theres this:
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Dorian Johnson has told media very different story. He has said he and Brown were walking in the street when an officer ordered them out of the street, then grabbed his friend's neck and tried to pull him into the car before brandishing his weapon and firing. He said Brown started to run and the officer pursued him, firing multiple times.
one of these makes no sense.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:44 am to Dizz
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While it may not be the case, on first glance it appears releasing this info at this time was done only to throw dirt on Brown
It absolutely was. And just look at the rubes that in this thread that have fallen for the bait.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:45 am to Choctaw
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black guy, white cop, jump to conclusions
Nope.
Cop shoots to kill, department takes a secretive and defensive posture, jump to conclusions
Yes.
Meanwhile, you have no opinion on the matter, or any matter without having all of the facts, because you are objective not have a stronger morality than I.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:45 am to novabill
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I agree it is relevant in the court of public opinion, but it does not change the facts of the shooting.
Only fact we know is Brown is dead and Ferguson was on fire.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:46 am to onmymedicalgrind
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This is very suscpicious. If he did just commit a crime on tape, you really think the police wouldnt have stated from day one that Brown was a suspect in a violent robbery???
The way everything unfolded, I would have held back on the tape even longer, unless they have more evidence than just a tape (which they have not shared). I don't know and nobody but the three of them know exactly what happened and why. I will not speculate.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:46 am to rb
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Michael Brown robbed store hours before his death ?
Shocked, he looked like such a sweet kid.
His death is certainly a reason for looting and rioting.
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