re: Mexico threatens US Gun Makers if Cartels are Designated as Terrorist Groups

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Uh yeah. Cartel runs that country. They also control a handful of politicians in the US. Looking at you Katie Hobbs

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Don’t leave Ruben Gallego off the list. He’s not just controlled, he’s family

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This is like suing Toyota because some jihad frick slaps a 50 cal on an old one shipped to the Middle East.

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Her current suit is like that. And will fail.
But the part of them being terrorists, would actually play well for her hand. As it's a violation of federal law.
However, it would be on her part to prove it.
All they have to do is hold off on naming the cartels terrorists, until April. Her current supreme court case is in March.

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Thanks for the info Wolf.

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I second this.

However, if there’s anything we can do from here to impede the flow of guns to the cartels, we should do it. Mexican cartels don’t have second amendment rights.

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Thanks for the info Wolf. I remember that one now. I guess this would just be another suit to tie our courts up, when the other loses. Though how this made it thru the court system to scotus would be interesting to understand.

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No problem Haga
I had to look this up, because my memory with dates is really bad.
Their suit was dismissed outright, in 22. Then they found a sympathetic court in AntiGun Massachusetts that brought the case back up.

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For years, Mexico has been trying to sue American gun manufacturers, claiming the firearms they produce are smuggled across the U.S.-Mexico border each year. And Mexico says these guns are arming drug cartels and fueling violence across the country. Well, a lower court dismissed the case in 2022, but yesterday a federal appeals court in Boston ruled the lawsuit can go forward. Joining me now is Mexico's co-counsel, Jonathan Lowy. He's also founder and president of Global Action on Gun Violence. Jonathan Lowy, welcome.

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In other words, they have been getting help from antigunners here in the US.
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/23/1226406579/mexicos-lawsuit-against-american-gun-manufacturers-is-revived-by-appeals-court

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Their suit was dismissed outright, in 22. Then they found a sympathetic court in AntiGun Massachusetts that brought the case back up.

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In other words, they have been getting help from antigunners here in the US.

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Proof the actual gun manufacturers are making their guns for cartel use would be interesting. I'm sure there's a custom build of a gold plated gun they'll try to use.

Seems if this approach is allowed to make it through the court system car manufacturers, rope makers, knife makers, etc, essentially any tool that has been used to do cartel business will be on the docket.

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I think she's going to have a hard time proving it, if she adds this to the suit. I'm gonna laugh tho, if it turns out that S&W has military contracts with Mexico's military.
So.... It's your military contracts supplying cartels with legally purchased arms? Hmmmmm.
I can't think of the name of it, but weapon and ammo manufacturers have immunity. The only thing they can be sued for are dangerously defective equipment, and violation of laws.
Hahaha this Mexican hemp rope burned the heck out of my hands! I'm suing the manufacturer for ten billion!

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I second this.

However, if there’s anything we can do from here to impede the flow of guns to the cartels, we should do it. Mexican cartels don’t have second amendment rights.

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Indeed. And I think that we also need to investigate what other countries and groups, are supplying them.
And then throw that card down on the negotiation table with those countries.
Agreed. They don't. Or any of the other constitutional protections.

How fricked up is your country when you defend drug cartels? They are terror groups. They chop heads off and hang dead bodies SPECIFICALLY for terror. I get that she thinks once they are listed as terrorist groups then Trump will violate the sovereignty of Mexico to go after them.

Hey Puppet President. If you can't or won't clean up your country, then maybe it is time for some sovereignty violation. How many mayors need to butchered in your country before you send the military after the cartels? 60 politicians murdered by cartels.

I wouldn't want to be a family member or friend of Trump if he does go after them because once a war starts, they will go after his family and friends.

I just don't understand how anyone would come out and threaten corporations from the US because actual terror groups might be put on a terror list.

Clearly that chick is president because the cartels allowed her to be president.

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They’d still exist in other capacities if drugs were legal.

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Drugs or Guns, nothing else is that lucrative.

We created the cartels through regulation. We've spent over a trillion fighting it and it will never work.

Sorry but we are going to keep our domestic gun industry healthy


Can you imagine if it shut down and over the course of yours we lost people with the skills to do that?

We would be totally dependent on foreign gun makers.

We should never be dependent on foreign gun makers, pharmaceutical companies, or high-tech components.