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re: Mexican TV reporting Cartels found with weapons that were sent to Ukraine

Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:56 am to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17005 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:56 am to
I doubt Ukraine sold it. Most likely it came from the CIA. We know Obama used to like to arm the cartels and I am sure Biden is doing the same.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:04 am to
Fake
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79025 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:17 am to
quote:

I am starting to think


lol Starting?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4072 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:21 am to
The real question should be: Were these actually ever shipped to Ukraine, or is this Fast and Furious 2?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Military support to Ukraine is bipartisan. Make better points.


Non responsive. I never said a thing about whether military support to Ukraine was partisan.

I asked if you were aware of fast and furious and former corruption in the Ukraine. Those are both yes or no questions and have nothing to do with which parties support military support in the Ukraine.

Your avoidance just proves my point was made. Thank you for your tacit admission.

This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 9:35 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Fake


What do you base this assertion upon?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34082 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:02 am to
quote:

What cool name can we come up with for this corruption if true. In the past you had:
Iran Contra Affair
Fast and Furious
Teapot Dome Scandal
Watergate
Whitewatergate
Noriega Affair, etc.


Perhaps:

The Big Guys Laundry
The Swamp Cartel
The MS13/Nazi affair

Or my favorite…

The Blast and the Spurious



Never forget, the morons that actually voted for him are true believers! For example, they still believe bullshite like this:

Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10614 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:11 am to
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20270 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:44 am to
quote:


Folks, I am starting to think our government is corrupt and is taking advantage of our complacent citizens/taxpayers by using Ukraine corruption and faux war to launder money.


Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:46 am to
Its true, At4s now, tanks and weapons systems are next.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13934 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:53 am to
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6328 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:54 am to
Same thing has happened in every war that America has bankrolled. The highest bidder for weapons is not usually the most savory of individuals.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8531 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Mexican TV reports that dozens of U.S. AT-4 weapons systems, which were originally shipped to Ukraine, have been purchased by Cartel Golfo in Mexico.

That's not what she said at all.

The most likely of scenario here is that the Gulf Cartel either stole this weapon or bought it from a corrupt member of the Mexican armed forces. Raytheon does business with Mexico very frequently. The reporter simply said this was a weapon "like the ones used in Ukraine". She also said that these weapons can cost up to 60k in the Mexican black market and each round can cost between 20-30k.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

What do you base this assertion upon?



Ryan McBeth debunked this pretty quickly. He's a fantastic source.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29053 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:01 am to
OT Ukraine thread praises these brave drug freedom fighters.
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 1:01 pm to
And not a damn thing will be done about it. We are a bunch of fools.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10816 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

So you’re telling me the OP is wrong?

quote:
Mexican TV reports that dozens of U.S. AT-4 weapons systems, which were originally shipped to Ukraine, have been purchased by Cartel Golfo in Mexico.
no, you're just ignorant on yet another subject.
quote:

Javelin and AT4 sales to US DoD replenish Ukraine support

The US Department of Defense has awarded contracts for Javelin and AT4 missile systems to replenish stocks sent to Ukraine.

https://www.army-technology.com/
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10816 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Fake news

Ryan McBeth-Expert
source claims is an AT-4 which is used by the us military and has also been sent to Ukraine. Thanks
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10816 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Ryan McBeth debunked this pretty quickly. He's a fantastic source.
quite right. He confirmed its an at-4. Great work
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46010 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:05 pm to
I can guarantee the Mexican cartels have arms and munitions that originated from the $85 billion of military equipment and supplies that were left in Afghanistan.
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