re: Mexican Soldiers Disarm Two U.S. Military Soldiers on the U.S. / Mexico Border

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I am an AGR with two battalion commands, two brigade commands, and a resident SSC grad who is currently the chief of staff for a two star command.

Probably want to throw in those qualifiers as well.

ETA: Would love to see your qualifiers as a company grade pilot.

ETA2: Let’s throw that DA 4037 up and see what you got.

ETA3: Let’s also throw in that I had seven years enlisted service (11B SSG), twelve years Regular Army (MAJ) and now fifteen years Army Reserve AGR (COL). Do we still want to play the qualifiers game?

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That's going to leave a mark.

How do you cross a fricking river that serves to delineate a boarder and NOT know you crossed said boarder.

They didnt realize they crossed a river in a jeep?...... or they forgot where the Rio Grande was?

Which is more ridiculous?

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Soldiers were armed and allowed Mexican nationals to not only approach them, but also disarm them. Their commander needs to be relieved.

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Yes. This for sure.

I guess the Mexican Army can thank the heavens it wasn't a squad of 0311s.

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It frightens me that morons like yourself are okay with them wandering around in the US.

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They were not wandering around. This was clearly a direct provocation designed to humiliate our forces. The Mexicans accomplished their purpose. NORTHCOM/ARNORTH needs to coordinate with HLD and relook what the parameters of this mission are. They are putting troops at risk.

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Read the article. This occurred WEST of El Paso. The Rio Grande turns north IN El Paso and is NOT the border west of town.

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So they crossed the Rio Grande, which no part of the northern bank is in Mexico. Are you retarded?

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Then explain to me why they crossed the river, wearing no identifying insignia, and did what they did to our personnel. They knew where they were.

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According to the map linked earlier in this thread, the riverbed is apparently NOT the border in that location. South to north and all within a few hundred meters, it seems that you have the following:

1. Mexican territory
2. Riverbed (largely dry here and brush-covered)
3. More Mexican territory
4. Legal border
5. American territory
6. Border fence
7. Canal full of water

So we have a Mexican unit, responsible for patrolling 1-4. They see an UNMARKED vehicle parked somewhere that MIGHT have been anywhere between 3 and 5, so they approach it in stealth mode and control its occupants with no violence. Turns out the vehicle was in 5. Everyone talks it out and goes on with their lives. No one is wound-up other than a few chickenhawks on a few message boards.

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More than a 10th of a mile into another country with, as you said, a fence AND a river marking the boundary, is a "screw-up"?

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Wow, a TENTH of a mile? 170 entire YARDS? And still south of the border fence?

I have no trouble imagining that this was simply a mistake.

I can't believe they are sitting in their vehicle with a device designed to call for help, and could not get off the SOS. That's my fault with them.

I could honestly see them sitting there with Beats by Dre on

If that's the case, you can see why I hold them responsible. They could have been in a very nasty situation, as in never seen again. I could understand not having an OK Corral re enactment but they should have gotten off the SOS.