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Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:13 am to Esquire
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Democrats were (are?) pro-slavery.
FIFY
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:15 am to Squirrelmeister
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We’d probably have flying cars right now if the west would have remained pagan.
Or…we would be living in caves and mud huts, worshipping the rising of the moon and sun.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:16 am to Big Gorilla
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More likely civilization would have collapsed without morals.
There's a lot of recent evidence to suggest that this statement is more true than untrue.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:21 am to jimmy the leg
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Or…we would be living in caves and mud huts, worshipping the rising of the moon and sun.
These Pagans should move to Africa and join practitioners there.
Leftists worship primitive cultures and religions.
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It was once thought that "primitive" cultures were those that had not yet evolved and developed the more "advanced" survival strategies of other cultures. Social progress was then defined as going from the simple hunter-gatherer strategies of early hominids to the complex, industrial, interdependent social structures of modern life. Both these assumptions no longer hold quite the dominance they once had. The environmental movement now glorifies the savage because he lived more in harmony with nature. If that harmony means a nasty, brutish and short life, well, at least he won’t cut down so many trees as his modern counterpart.
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The problems facing modern Africa are a good example of the effects of paganism on social progress because Africa is one of the most consistently pagan areas left on earth. Africa has a thin veneer of Western materialism covering millennia of pagan philosophy. The endemic poverty, sickness, tribal warfare, etc., can be directly attributed to the pagan worldview that continues to operate.
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This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 8:22 am
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:52 am to NC_Tigah
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I suppose you realize the OP you are defending was packed with 'stupid'?
Right?
What makes you think I was defending the OP? Like quite a few others in this thread, you’re attributing thoughts and statements on to me me, which I have neither thought nor stated. Try not to do that.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:09 am to Mo Jeaux
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So you believe that there was no morality or morals before Christianity?
Of course there was, the Ten Commandments pre-dates Christianity by a couple of thousand years.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:04 am to catholictigerfan
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so a random image in a tomb that happens to look similar to Sol Invictus
It is Sol Invictus. It is also not in a random tomb, rather a tomb in Vatican City under St Peter’s Basilica, which as you know is very Christian.
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How do you know the person pictured in the image you posted is Jesus?
We don’t know. It’s just that scholars believe it is most likely.
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Could it be someone else? IDK like Ezekiel being taken up to heaven by a chariot of fire?
Maybe. But consider the other pictures in the same tomb are distinctly Jesus such as the one where he is carrying a lamb.
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edit: it's common to use the sun to respesent Christ, as he is the light of the world. As the scriptures tell us.
Yes, and Paul described fellow Christians as “children of light” (Essenes of Dead Sea Scrolls fame also used the same terminology).
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:08 am to catholictigerfan
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maybe it isn't correct, it's speculation and the traditional date has been for centuries been the 25th of December, but do you have evidence outside of sharing a date with a pagan God that Christians connected Christmas with a pagan holiday?
I’m feeling pretty lazy today so you’ll have to look it up. Modern Christmas was a combination of the Feast of SOL Invictus and another festival around the winter solstice called Saturnalia. This is standard knowledge for any reasonably educated person. Find a “weird” Christian “cult” member such as a Jehovah’s Witness and they can probably explain the pagan origins of the Christmas holiday better than me.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:12 am to jimmy the leg
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Or…we would be living in caves and mud huts, worshipping the rising of the moon and sun.
Thats where they want us.
Western-Christian tradition is the bane of communism. They'd rather strip you down than build others up.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:13 am to TygerTyger
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They also thought it was perfectly ok to frick little boys.
That might have been a Greek thing, but the Greeks were at the center of the church and it became a church thing. Did you know the church has a history of harboring pedophile priests and a history of sexual abuse of boys?
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Morality is needed to reign in societies deviancies.
There was morality and laws before they wrote the Torah in the 6th century BCE. You should read some of “the law” right after reading the Code of Hammurabi.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:15 am to Squirrelmeister
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That might have been a Greek thing
It was. Find any pagan culture, its prevalent.
I suppose thats your draw.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:15 am to Big Gorilla
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More likely civilization would have collapsed without morals.
The Roman Empire was a decently successful civilization, with morals, and with laws, before Christianity existed. Same applies to Egypt, China, Persia, etc.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:17 am to AUCom96
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No one is stopping you from burning dead birds or handing over money to babbling idiots with incense. They're still out there.
Are you trying to imply the things you mentioned here are pagan? Quite frankly you described the practices of the temple in Jerusalem very well.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:18 am to Squirrelmeister
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The Roman Empire was a decently successful civilization, with morals,
Youre just digging deeper, and killing your own cause.
One of their issues was over reliance on slave labor. Another was the loss of traditional values.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:18 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:How so?
That’s a stretch
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:20 am to Squirrelmeister
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Are you trying to imply the things you mentioned here are pagan?
Indeed.
Do you speak to your dead ancestors? Sacrifice children to the Gods?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:25 am to Mike da Tigah
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He has no birthday as He has always been, but it’s a time we designated on the calendar to celebrate the day our Savior came into the world.
There’s these two different contradictory accounts of the Gospel - one called “Matthew” and the other “Luke” - that certainly state that Jesus had a birthday.
In the subject of Jesus having “always been”, have you read the Bible? It states over and over that Jesus is the firstborn of Creation. Side note: Proverbs states the Holy Spirit is the firstborn of creation. I can’t find anywhere in the Bible about Jesus having always existed and being eternally begotten from the father, begotten not made, and all that jazz. Seems made up. I guess you might come to that conclusion if you ignore the entire Bible except the first chapter of John.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:33 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:Isaiah 9:6, John 1:1–3, Hebrews 7:3, and from Hebrew texts Micah 5:2.
I can’t find anywhere in the Bible about Jesus having always existed
You're welcome. Merry Christmas.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 10:34 am
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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slave labor
That your God explicitly permitted and encouraged, never not once saying slavery was bad or that slaves should be freed.
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