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re: Memo from Boomer parents and grandparents to their ungrateful children…

Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:57 pm to
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I'm glad to hear it. Like I've poste before, I have 3 adult kids 30/under, and know most of their friends and close colleagues - and I never hear them whine like many do on TD. Likewise, when I was younger, I really didn't sit around and think about how my parents' generation fricked me over. It has been clear to me from early on that life is better and easier with each generation.


Although I don’t know you, you seem to be a good and decent man David, your maturity of thought and discussion is shining through in this thread.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:00 pm to
Don’t worry. Gen X will fix this. Or not. We don’t care.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Can't the same argument be made for GenXers/Millennials with the internet/social media?


Sort of. What we see in social patterns is that while kids tend to be more rebellious against parents, they are often less rebellious against their grandparents. So while being very latchkey, GenX kids were likely to be more influenced by their grandparents (the WW2 generation).

Right around the Millennial years is when we see Boomers getting really influential in media and academia. Rock the Vote, for example, was a Boomer-created program to get GenXers to vote for Bill Clinton and other Democrat candidates.

Currently Millennials are 26-41 (ish). When you see stories about a 30yr old teacher in WI crying because "they/their" aren't allowed to talk about sex with their class of 6yr olds, that's a Millennial. For the next week, anytime you hear a story about Floridaman or someone with someone in authority pushing some Critical x Theory, check their age and you're likely to see they are Millennials more often than not. These are the grandkids of Boomers (see: generational influence I mentioned earlier), but those who also learned from young-middle-aged Boomers in schools.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:13 pm to
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Exactly. And over this time, generations younger than boomers have been in clear control of the electorate.


Did you miss the part of how this was accumulated while Boomers were the majority of the age-group in Congress, especially the majority of the longer-serving members?

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Okay, briefly - which generation if accountable for an individual 85 yo liberal whackjob in office


Millennials and then Boomers.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:15 pm to
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It's the large pushback against the culture of their WW2-era parents that we see expressed from the Boomers
Yes and no. Sometimes it's not so much pushback as simple opportunity and intersection. Do Lennon, McCartney, Richards, Jagger, or Dylan pursue music at all if they're born 10yrs earlier?
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There's no reason to believe the large pushback against the culture of the time by those slightly younger than him
So Beatlemania teens created the Beatles? IMO that's silly. However, a post-WWII creativity boom, similar to the post-WWI poet boom is a reasonable thesis.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:18 pm to
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Remind me. If I’m young and my education is shite because of Marxists infiltrating our society, what generation allowed that to happen under their guidance and “leadership”?



Most Boomer were working and prospering and didn't give a flip about politics. We naively assumed that most all politicos loved our Constitutional Republic and the Freedom therein. What we did not realize was the stealth strategy to take over Academia, then the Courts, and finally the highly public politicos. With Obama being the first hard Leftist to come out of the closet.

You may be justified re your envy of Boomers reaping the fruits of our Father's sacrifices, but most Boomers - though Idealistic in our naive 'love children' youth - got our asses to work after our fling. There are indeed Boomers who make transition to Progressive, for various reasons...social and environmental nature based, but most Boomer Progs are not hard Commies.

Read "The Fourth Turning" if you unload you heavy burden of blame and scapegoating and realize that we are where we are on the cyclical wheel. And choose to either bitch and whine or fight. Not that choice matters, as we all are going to be in a dogfight soon enough. The "fundamental change" Marxists and corrupt Dems/Rinos who sold us out for $$ will see to that.

Good luck.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:20 pm to
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doesn’t change the shitty boomer driven politics of today.


Boomers didn't vote for that shite, billjamin. YOU did!
Posted by SlabCrab
One step above Mississippi
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:21 pm to
Someone que up the lab in Wuhan. The last boomer remover didn't do the job, we need another one.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21884 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:22 pm to
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Did you miss the part of how this was accumulated while Boomers were the majority of the age-group in Congress, especially the majority of the longer-serving members?

I didn't. I just don't agree that because some moron in Congress is a boomer, the boomer generation is accountable for their shitty governance rather than the millions of millennials/GenXers that voted them into office while boomers voted for the other candidate.

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Millennials and then Boomers.

This gets into Rep/Dem, but generally it's millennials/GenXers that are voting the crazies into office and boomers are giving them less than half their vote. Biden is an example - if I'm not mistaken, boomers are the only ones whose majority voted for Trump.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:24 pm to
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Remind me. If I’m young and my education is shite because of Marxists infiltrating our society, what generation allowed that to happen under their guidance and “leadership”?
The greatest and silents.
McCarthy recognized it. He got sliced and diced by his contemporaries.

Any other questions?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:55 pm to
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Boomers didn't vote for that shite, billjamin. YOU did!

I’d love to keep fricking with you because it would be fun but I’m off to see Billy Joel with the misses.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:55 pm to
Project Venona uncovered something like thirty or forty Russian agents in the United States IIRC.
Far cry from the hundreds claimed by McCarthy. We need to remember the guy was a drunken buffoon.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21884 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:01 pm to
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I’m off to see Billy Joel with the misses.

Are you sure you're not a boomer?

Have a good time -
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53947 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:07 pm to
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Project Venona uncovered something like thirty or forty Russian agents in the United States IIRC. Far cry from the hundreds claimed by McCarthy. We need to remember the guy was a drunken buffoon.


The enlightened progressives from Europe brought their Marxist/Socialist ideology with them in the huge immigration inflows after WWI and WWII…..it’s well documented. I’m sure there were already a few native born Americans back in the early 1900’s through the 60’s that also had the same inclinations as the progressive Europeans that immigrated to the US.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:15 pm to
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Yeah, you're definitely the poster who should be saying other posters don't sound intelligent.

Holler up again?

I will put intelligence up against yours any day

Your having no clue while hollering up the posts you holler,

and the follow it with this nonsense based on having no clue?

You are absurdity personified.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135755 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:22 pm to
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We need to remember the guy was a drunken buffoon.
So there was no threat?
Posted by kbmaverick
Baton Rouge, Maui and Toledo Bend
Member since Nov 2009
1018 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:29 pm to
Never underestimate an old man who flew and piloted a HUEY.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 6:32 pm
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:35 pm to
The atom spies got nabbed by the FBI. They were the main threat to national security.
It doesn't change the fact that McCarthy claimed there were hundreds of spies when there was never even close to that number.
The guy was a drunk. And a bully and was eventually exposed as such. He is a black scar on our history.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30924 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:44 pm to
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The boomers and their horseshite social revolution of the 1960s is the biggest reason


What's that saying about painting with a broad brush? I was 9 at my oldest in the sixties.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53947 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:50 pm to
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What's that saying about painting with a broad brush? I was 9 at my oldest in the sixties.


That’s no excuse…lol
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