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Medicare pays hospitals $13,000 per COVID patient - $39,000 if on ventilator

Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:46 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:46 am
Dr. Scott Jensen (on Laura Ingraham last night) said Medicare pays hospitals $13,000 per COVID patient - $39,000 if on ventilator.

So are hospitals getting these funds if the diagnosis is based on an assumption? If it is merely on assumption, then the abuses could easily get into the high hundreds of millions - if not into the billions.

No wonder there are so many empty beds on the ships, Javitts Center, and all other temporary hospitals.

Dr. Jensen's interview begins at 18:35

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On YouTube - If you don't like links, the YouTube title is:
The Ingraham Angle 4/8/20 full

I'm informed that some of this video has been deleted.
Try this on (while it still remains up)
At about 53:07
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This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:13 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:47 am to
cha ching
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67950 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:48 am to
So, yeah that dude that burned up in a fiery plane crash was a Covid victim.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12072 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:48 am to
No.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:50 am to
Yup
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95287 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:52 am to
at anyone thinking hospitals are doing well/liking this situation

We are getting buttraped financially because of this
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90629 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:53 am to
Money printer go brrr
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35406 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:54 am to
Medicare pays more for amputations than they do for a bandaid. So by your logic does that incentive them in any way?




Republics can be the biggest penny pinchers for hospitals or welfare recipients. But for billions thrown at corporations like Boeing whose problems have zip to do with COVID-19, not so much.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 7:57 am
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:54 am to
quote:

Dr. Scott Jensen (on Laura Ingraham last night) said Medicare pays hospitals $13,000 per COVID patient - $39,000 if on ventilator.


I understand that you probably work in some field unrelated to health care, but particularly in Emergency and Critical Care medicine the billing side of the house doesn't play a role in what ICD code you pick.

So don't try and apply whatever motivations exist in your line of work to medicine.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 7:56 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48315 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:55 am to
quote:

lsupride87


Since this is your line of work, please let OP know what Medicare reimbursement tables are for ventilation before the COVID outbreak. If a medicare patient walked into the hospital in February of 2019 needing a vent, what would medicare reimburse?

I just looked it up.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:57 am to
quote:

at anyone thinking hospitals are doing well/liking this situation

We are getting buttraped financially because of this


That’s the point. The fedgov has added additional compensation for COVID claims. Hospitals are incentivized to pad those numbers, which increases the numbers reported to the media, which continually sends the masses into fear.

Creating a nearly endless feedback loop.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:59 am to
quote:

I understand that you probably work in some field unrelated to health care, but particularly in Emergency and Critical Care medicine the billing side of the house doesn't play a role in what ICD code you pick.


Tell that to Dr. Jensen. It is his name and reputation he has put on national television.

We are all anonymous keyboard warriors - you included.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33099 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:59 am to
Like I said in the other thread my grandad died of Coronavirus but it wasn’t listed as his cause of death. He had other issues. This whole narrative is bs.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:00 am to
quote:


That’s the point. The fedgov has added additional compensation for COVID claims. Hospitals are incentivized to pad those numbers, which increases the numbers reported to the media, which continually sends the masses into fear.

Creating a nearly endless feedback loop.


Hospitals are getting crushed financially, during this. They would need a shite-ton more COVID patients than they have, to make up for all the elective surgeries and procedures that ARE NOT doing now.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Hospitals are getting crushed financially, during this. They would need a shite-ton more COVID patients than they have, to make up for all the elective surgeries and procedures that ARE NOT doing now.


I know. They’re trying to make up revenue wherever they can.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3239 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:02 am to

Some of that video was cut out youtube censors this one has it all.

YT

start at 54 minute mark.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:03 am to
quote:

I understand that you probably work in some field unrelated to health care, but particularly in Emergency and Critical Care medicine the billing side of the house doesn't play a role in what ICD code you pick.


I do work in that setting and have for a long time.

You are being naive.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Hospitals are getting crushed financially, during this.
sorry to hear this. But our nation's economy is being crushed by a shutdown based on extremely shaky data and projections.

Someone in government needs to put an immediate end to this practice of relying on assumptions for CRITICAL data
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:06 am to
quote:

That’s the point. The fedgov has added additional compensation for COVID claims. Hospitals are incentivized to pad those numbers, which increases the numbers reported to the media, which continually sends the masses into fear.

Are you familiar with the consequences of Medicare fraud?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:08 am to
Yes

It's word for word in the published guidelines: "in lieu of a positive result, it is permissible to ASSUME corona when assigning codes on the death certificate"
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