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re: Medical Doctor regarding harmful nature of the vax post-recommendations: "I didn't know"

Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4666 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:08 pm to
I’m a retired nurse.I can honestly say I didn’t know if the vaccine would turn out to be harmful or not.
Big part of my decision not to take it was when Dr.Robert Malone advised against mass vaccination and mandates because “ we don’t know long term side effects”.
Also,I didn’t trust Pfizer.

I recently read a statement by a Dr.I which he said “at one time Drs. were like chefs,now they’re more like line cooks”.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:18 pm to
I have a particularly HUGE bone to pick with a particular doctor

a neurologist based in Florence, Alabama

deliberately propagandized the mRNA shots

deliberately mischaracterized it.

Blathered on and on about its safety back during the first months of vaxx availability

went on youtube to do all of this - created a shhitton of victims
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Gastrogastro99
Member since Jan 2023
978 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:23 pm to
That is a factually true number, however beneath the surface it’s a bit more complex. When a patient has multiple comorbidities and a small error leads to an exacerbation of one of the comirbidities leading to death it counts, even if the persons life expectancy was extremely limited. It’s really tough to quantify medical error deaths
Posted by Gastrogastro99
Member since Jan 2023
978 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:27 pm to
Can attest to your last statement. Many medical school grads are followers, not leaders like they used to be. There are still good docs out there, but in 10-20 years when the new “drones” are practicing, I would seek opinions of surgical sub specialists, radiologists, and dermatologists or any other trusted specialists. Most internal med, family med, and peds (especially the younger ones) just blindly follow algorithms with no critical thinking
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Why would ANYONE trust ANYTHING the federal gov't has to say? It's amazing to me.


+1

They couldn't do it without Mockingbird Media and Tee-bee's constant harping and hounding, could they?

Of course what businesses did "trust" were the shut-down threats of almighty local / state/ feral goob to "comply or else be ruined."

Dunno how many people actually trusted the word of gubmint on whether the "Pandemic" and Vax info was real, but the coercion and threats were very real. (and so too now are the deaths, permanent damage AND trauma.)
Posted by BoudinChicot
Member since Sep 2021
2219 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:41 pm to
Lack of scientific innovation, disruption and critique is happening across the board. Nature paper just released this week on this problem NATURE Article

We've fallen dangerously into a realm of conformity for fear of ostracization, and careers predicated on taking the path of least resistance.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:48 pm to
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This is what happens when pharma has influence over the vast majority of doctors.


That extent of an influence that-should-never -be also worked by threatening Medical Boards -- who then threatened revoking the Medical Licenses of ethical and moral doctors who weren't onboard at all with the whole CV19/vaxx frickery.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125784 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:48 pm to
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This is what happens when pharma has influence over the vast majority of doctors.


This wasn’t primarily Big Pharma at the physician level. Doctors, on an individual basis, don’t really love Big Pharma.

It was health systems driving the narrative down to their employee physicians. The doctors that bucked the status quo were largely independent practitioners.

The health systems were moved by threat of liability and the imprimatur of the FDA and CDC.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:54 pm to
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We've fallen dangerously into a realm of conformity for fear of ostracization, and careers predicated on taking the path of least resistance.


In other words, the message has been sent, loud and clear:

UNLESS you want to retain your professional licenses and comfy living, be mindful that "The Science" (and its existing DOGMA) is NOT to be trifled with or challenged by the "over-curious" or pesky research.

ETA: Or rather, "DON'T ROCK THE BOAT."
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
6786 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2759 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

We've fallen dangerously into a realm of conformity for fear of ostracization, and careers predicated on taking the path of least resistance.


It began with peer/social pressure.

It progressed to ostracization from society.

It escalated to the threat of termination of employment and revocation of licenses.

It will reach a secular climax to the point of choosing between imprisonment and compliance.

It will culminate to an eternal pinnacle of choosing between your soul and pledging allegiance to the Anti-Christ.

This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 1:03 pm
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6983 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I have a particularly HUGE bone to pick with a particular doctor

a neurologist based in Florence, Alabama

deliberately propagandized the mRNA shots

deliberately mischaracterized it.

Blathered on and on about its safety back during the first months of vaxx availability

went on youtube to do all of this - created a shhitton of victims


I hope this is the downfall of Fauci. He stood in front of the nation and claimed that the vaccine was SAFE and EFFECTIVE. Neither of which are proving to be true. . . especially in the context of historical vaccines. And his departure is likely at a point where they have definitive proof that the vaccine is not as safe and effective as they claim. I really hope this little weasel hangs, but as anything with politicians, nothing truly ever happens.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:28 pm to
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It is very possible that there is a disease phenomenon totally related to the vaccine. But it’s also possible that we have an autoimmune myocarditis that some people were going to get from the virus, from second-exposure effect, or, of course, just from the vaccine itself.
Right. Logically one would expect correspondent CV19 pathogenesis mirroring and exceeding any Vax complication. But people were not ordered to contract a CV19 infection. They were encouraged, ordered or pressured to get the vax though.

Further, sundry demonstrable lies ... cloth mask effectiveness, BatSoup Covid origins, two weeks to stop the spread, horsepaste, etc ... annihilated medical trust.

With regard to the vax, six-months after the initial rollout, vax effectiveness began to wane, likely d/t CV19 strain adaptation and mRNA specificity. Ever since, we've been variant chasing with outdated boosters. I've not seen the latest vax effectiveness stats vs BQ.1, BQ.1.1, and XBB.1.5, but I'd be surprised if they are good.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:40 pm to
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But he/she didn't know...



That's a BIIIIIIG about face from "We are professionals, how DARE you bumpkins question us!!!!"...
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22843 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:46 pm to
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"I didn't know"


Which was exactly what non-medical professionals were saying regarding why they didn’t want to take it
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46657 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:03 pm to
So

He recommended something that he really knew nothing about? Sounds sort of careless.
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