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Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:24 pm to mmcgrath
Erdogan is a hard core Muslim dictator who Trump admires. I do NOT support the slaughter of Kurds who are our strongest ethnic supporter with the Israelites in the region. frick Erdogan.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:52 pm to crazy4lsu
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I've seen no indication that they will.
Moscow is relentlessly practical.
One of their better qualities.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:54 pm to bamarep
Turkey needs to be kicked out of NATO.
I hope Trump goes balls deep on erdogans little military
I hope Trump goes balls deep on erdogans little military
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:01 pm to mmcgrath
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Erdogan is pro-Putin
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:10 pm to Lima Whiskey
They are practical, but if the story I relayed in my previous post has any meaning, then they aren't interested in Kurdish autonomy if the Kurds remain in the US orbit. Russia has to allay fears to Assad that Turkey will remain in Northern Syria for the long haul, and in that metric I do not see them keeping Assad and advocating for Kurdish federalism. It's one or the other, and that their other allies, Iran, are pro-Assad and anti-Kurd, puts the Kurds in a situation where either the US has to help them or they will be subject the whims of larger powers. That was the gambit the Kurds took, and it's failed them once already.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:17 pm to crazy4lsu
The Kurds won’t remain in our orbit. Only Damascus can, and will, protect them from Turkey.
Federalism is the price Moscow will impose on Damascus for territorial unity, and Kurdish support for the SAG. They want a lasting solution.
Federalism is the price Moscow will impose on Damascus for territorial unity, and Kurdish support for the SAG. They want a lasting solution.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:24 pm to mmcgrath
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course Trumpkins love Erdogan.
The frick you talking about? I've never seen that anywhere
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:34 pm to crazy4lsu
Given that the announcement of the creation of a 30,000 man border force was made only a week ago, I'd say that the Turks said "frick that" and moved quickly to shite all over that idea. Amazing that we'd make such a mistake. Maybe we'll just get the hell out of there instead of trying to "re-shape" another country.
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:33 pm to Big12fan
We haven’t had a sensible foreign policy since 41.
And this is a wonderful example of that.
And this is a wonderful example of that.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:38 pm to Lima Whiskey
If we won’t guarantee it (and I’m tired of nation-building over there), then I’m good with that solution. The Kurds need their own country, and if Russia is the one that guarantees it then so be it.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:44 pm to boosiebadazz
The Russians want the Kurds to make good with Damascus and accept the status quo ante bellum, with some provisions for federalism.
Independence would invite conflict with Turkey, Iraq, and Iran.
Independence would invite conflict with Turkey, Iraq, and Iran.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:46 pm to Lima Whiskey
Any time Iranians, Russians, and Turks or their proxies are shooting at one another without American forces in proximity is a win for me.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:48 pm to boosiebadazz
They would slice up the Kurds, not each other.
The Turks would end up annexing northern Syria, and potentially northern Iraq.
The Turks would end up annexing northern Syria, and potentially northern Iraq.
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