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re: Mattis to NATO: Pay More or U.S. Will ‘Moderate Its Commitment’
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:58 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:58 am to Jjdoc
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“I owe it to you all to give you clarity on the political reality in the United States, and to state the fair demand from my country’s people in concrete terms,” he said during a closed-door meeting, according to remarks provided to reporters traveling with him. “America will meet its responsibilities, but if your nations do not want to see America moderate its commitment to the alliance, each of your capitals needs to show its support for our common defense.”
Dayum...
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:58 am to Jjdoc
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2- He uses everything from a stand point of making a deal! EVERYTHING
Including the interests of the United States? So the Democrats are right to be talking about impeachment?
Stupid, stupid shill.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 11:59 am
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:00 pm to TN Bhoy
It's ok man. You will live through the next 8 years!
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:02 pm to Jjdoc
releasing a statement is great and all but I will hold my praise until we either see the other nations paying up their full responsibilities or see the US leave them hanging.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:08 pm to udtiger
I can dig this.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:09 pm to Jeff Boomhauer
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releasing a statement is great and all but I will hold my praise until we either see the other nations paying up their full responsibilities or see the US leave them hanging.
They actually did start to do this last year - European military spending was up almost 4% in real terms. Mattis really isn't channeling anything different from Robert Gates who, if you remember, gave a pretty stinging rebuke to NATO members when he was on his way out in 2011. I am still not sure just how many people in both the U.S. and in Europe realize just how much of a clusterfrick Libya was from an operational perspective. Quite literally, I don't think the rest of NATO could have actually overthrown Gaddafi if we hadn't been there; that's how bad they were.
I think Mattis is trying to drive them from giving a token 4% increase and actually have them up 40 or 50 or 100% (which is what places like Germany and Canada need to do).
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:15 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Who could be against this?
Establishment types, globalists, Anti or Never Trumpers, snowflakes, academia types, etc
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:16 pm to Jjdoc
I think Mattis may end up being the best hire Trump has made. I really think Mattis is everything we should stand for.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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So the new standard is meet all your promises in a month or you're a liar?
#gitmo
So you're saying that Trump is no better than Obama?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Equating the hypocrisy of a poster is not the same as equating the performance of two presidents.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:24 pm to TN Bhoy
Bookmarked
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:25 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Equating the hypocrisy of a poster is not the same as equating the performance of two presidents.
Again, my post was about promises that Trump has backed away from. He's never going to fulfil them. Ever.
Also, I'm not an Obama supporter. I think Trump is a liberal con-artist. The sooner that conservatives realise that fact, the better.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:25 pm to Jeff Boomhauer
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releasing a statement is great and all but I will hold my praise until we either see the other nations paying up their full responsibilities or see the US leave them hanging.
I can agree with this.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:35 pm to Jjdoc
Good. An alliance is a lot like a marriage. You can't really expect one spouse to stay fully committed if the other spouse isn't likewise committed.
And for far too long Europe has shown zero commitment. Yeah they talk about how commited they are to NATO, but talk is cheap. The true measure of how serious they are about NATO comes from their actions though. And their actions for the past couple decades has shown they're not nearly as committed as they claim.
And for far too long Europe has shown zero commitment. Yeah they talk about how commited they are to NATO, but talk is cheap. The true measure of how serious they are about NATO comes from their actions though. And their actions for the past couple decades has shown they're not nearly as committed as they claim.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:39 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Equating the hypocrisy of a poster is not the same as equating the performance of two presidents.
So you're saying that Obama supporters don't have the right to hold Trump to his word?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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wait Globalists are against a major international military-defense organization?
Some people play chess and think more than one move ahead. Globalist desire a weakened US and their desired method of creating said weakness is through debt and non domestic spending (an empire spread thin).
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:53 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Thats a no brainer. Topping Mattis would be tough for anyone though.
I think Mattis may end up being the best hire Trump has made.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:53 pm to Jjdoc
Mattis is a fricking boss. In my mind he's wearing a cowboy hat and pearl handled pistols to the meeting.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:57 pm to skrayper
quote:Removing the bases makes no sense. Why not just sell them to the host countries?
If anything, you'll find people who think the military should scale back out of NATO entirely, or at least remove our bases from there.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:02 pm to WaveHog
as a military member who believes Trump will be bad for this country, I have no problem with this.
pay your 2% or GTFO.
pay your 2% or GTFO.
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