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re: Massive W for Trump.

Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:29 am to
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:29 am to
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To me, it's a statement that requires a halting of the current line of questioning. Wait a second, you admire a mass murderer?

Maybe it's just me


It's not just you, but you're talking to a cult member. It doesn't matter what you say to him.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:32 am to
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I wish they would have because that was a very "wth?" statement NF made, but they didn't.


That was a shiny hook I wish they would have come back to (but never did). I suspect they were going to talk about Roosevelt’s support for Stalin and Truman being forced to support Russia though the war and once the war was over Truman’s sharp turn against Stalin. But I’m only guessing.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:34 am to
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it was a rather short interview.
Why?

Was there a schedule conflict?

Someone had a dinner date?

You know what word I did not find anywhere in the transcript copy I accessed? "Holocaust." I couldn't find that term anywhere in their discussion. Perhaps you have a better copy though. How many times does the term appear in your copy? You know, since Fuentes has some very unique takes on the subject.

Transcript
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:35 am to
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So do Huckster's actions. Past and present.


Actions? He's a talking head... did he kick someone's puppy?

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Yeah, except Biden also claimed to be fit and capable. Repeatedly. Remember him challenging "Look, Fat, Look" to a pushup contest?


Again, Biden spoke for Biden and what Biden had to say spoke volumes. I didn't need anyone else to tell me what to think about the man who beat medicare.

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Look, I'm not going to waste my time responding to the tactic of you pretending that you don't understand what we're talking about here. It's been explained to you multiple times by multiple people. If you are really so thick as to not get it—doubtful, but possible—re-read the post a page or two back mentioning Mike Tyson.


Not a single one of you can point to anything TC did wrong in this interview.

Yall whatabout NF, or VDH, or Biden, or other comments TC may have made in other interviews or talks- but not a damn thing about TC in THIS interview.

I don't have the entire body of TC's work in front of me and I'm not a listener of his except for what gets posted here.

And I'm not taking y'all's word on faith because in THIS thread about THIS interview TC has not ONLY been misquoted, but when so proven y'all pivot to knowing his inner thoughts and feelings about what he really meant.

Amateurs.

Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:36 am to
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That was a shiny hook I wish they would have come back to (but never did). I suspect they were going to talk about Roosevelt’s support for Stalin and Truman being forced to support Russia though the war and once the war was over Truman’s sharp turn against Stalin. But I’m only guessing.


Hopefully it'll get revisited in the future... it was worthy of a deep dive, or at least a shallow one!
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:42 am to
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How is this a W for Trump?


Has Trump ever had a W in your mind?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:42 am to
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You know what word I did not find anywhere in the transcript copy I accessed? "Holocaust." I couldn't find that term anywhere in their discussion. Perhaps you have a better copy though. How many times does the term appear in your copy? You know, since Fuentes has some very unique takes on the subject.


I already had the transcript link... I'm the one who originally posted it.

What or why am I going to word search? Were they supposed to talk about the holocaust?

It's ridiculous... you still won't debate the content of the interview- you've jumped to fussing about what they DIDN'T talk about.

They didn't talk about the moon landing either- I would bet NF or TC definitely have some views on that.

Did they discuss the JFK assassination?

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:44 am to
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Your clip is truncated...
bullshite!

You go getting snitty about some presumed imbecilic difference between the indistinguishable meaning of "dislike them more than anybody" vs "hate them." Then you are audacious enough to attempt to reconstruct an entire quote and its meaning?

Carlson made two definitive and distinct statements:

"But then how do you explain Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and there are a lot like that, John I mean, I've known them all. George W. Bush, Karl Rove. I mean, all people I know personally who I've seen be seized by this brain virus, and they're not Jewish. Most of them are self-described Christians. And then the Christian Zionists who are, well, Christian Zionists. Like, what is that? I can just say for myself, I dislike them more than anybody because what? Because it's Christian heresy, and I'm offended by that as a Christian. That's why.

Why not? I'm pissed at the neocons. Very pissed. I've said that a million times. I've been mad since December of 2003 when I went to Iraq."
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 10:49 am
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13264 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:45 am to
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Can someone explain to me why Tucker would interview NF?


Because Tucker is in the JOOtard camp.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13264 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:46 am to
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Only stupid people say this.

What is AIPAC?
Who is Sheldon Adelson?

Are you aware one of them was the single largest donor to Trump and has met with him dozens of times via phone and in person to discuss policy concerns?

Are you aware the other is the single most powerful lobby on capital hill?

What are both of their positions on this issue?



JOOtard ALERT!!!
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:49 am to
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Then you are audacious enough to attempt to reconstruct an entire quote and its meaning?


I posted the actual transcript, with highlights and underlines.

What's wrong with viewing Christian Zionism as heresy? He's hardly the only one to take that stance.

You may not agree with it- but it is a viewpoint held by many reasonable people- and refuted by many reasonable people. It's a difference in opinion.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13264 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:49 am to
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Here are a few:
Zionist Organization of America (ZOA): withdrew from the Heritage foundation because they wouldn't call for Carlson to be cancelled
ADL: "Tucker Carlson's recent interview with Nick Fuentes is appalling. This comes as no surprise given Fuentes' and Carlson’s long history of peddling antisemitic lies.
ADL Again calling for Tucker to be deplatformed: "We couldn’t agree more. There is no excuse for platforming antisemitism. It didn't just start last week. And it doesn’t matter who might be the source — Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Heritage Foundation or Kevin Roberts. It’s just wrong. Absolutely, indisputably wrong."
ADL Calling for Trump to Condemn Tucker: Described the interview as "repellent" and part of Carlson's "years-long laundering of hate" by platforming Holocaust deniers and anti-Zionists. Urged President Trump and the GOP to condemn it, noting Trump's pro-Israel record could make his voice "very, very powerful."



Yeah, dude. Tucker had one of the most vitriolic right-wing anti-Jew influencers on his show and pal'd around with him. I can imagine they'd be upset about it.

You're shocked at this?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:52 am to
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Tucker's EXACT point.
Tucker's EXACT point was that all neocons are "Christian Zionists"? Really?

I linked the transcript. Perhaps you can use it to pull the quote(s) backing your claim.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:54 am to
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Tucker's EXACT point was that all neocons are "Christian Zionists


That's how neocons were born bro.

The genesis was out of the American Empire First movement a la GHWB.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:55 am to
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You're shocked at this?


What's shocking is in your dated worldview you have no idea that nobody gives a shite.

It's over. You lost.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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138525 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:56 am to
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What's wrong with viewing Christian Zionism as heresy?
Not my battle to fight, brother.

If there is such a thing though, I'd not HATE them to the extent I disliked them more than anybody on the planet. There are far worse humans out there.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13264 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:57 am to
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Tucker pushed back on "The Jews" stuff pretty hard, NF's views, while a bit extreme, aren't completely off the wall. I didn't nod at everything he said by any means- but based on this ONE interview, I'd say the "controversy" is at least 90% contrived.


I don't agree with Tucker on everything but I really like this version of Tucker the last few years. Admittedly, I did not watch it because I have already seen enough of Fuentes before this Tucker interview to know I don't like him and his racist/antisemetic rhetoric. He isn't doing the conservative movement any favors, especially in the era of the left and entire media apparatus constantly banging people over their heads with, "conservatives are Nazis" BS. Then they can watch that guy and he doesn't seem that far off the mark. He was probably more well behaved on Tucker than he is on his own podcast etc.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:57 am to
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I disliked them more than anybody on the planet.


That says something about your own faith. Not Tucker's views.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166696 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:58 am to
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"But then how do you explain Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and there are a lot like that, John I mean, I've known them all. George W. Bush, Karl Rove. I mean, all people I know personally who I've seen be seized by this brain virus, and they're not Jewish. Most of them are self-described Christians. And then the Christian Zionists who are, well, Christian Zionists. Like, what is that? I can just say for myself, I dislike them more than anybody because what? Because it's Christian heresy, and I'm offended by that as a Christian. That's why.
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Why not? I'm pissed at the neocons. Very pissed. I've said that a million times. I've been mad since December of 2003 when I went to Iraq."
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:59 am to
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Tucker's EXACT point was that all neocons are "Christian Zionists"? Really?


There you go... take a quote referring to Zionists, heresy and neocons and inserting ALL into it.

Extremism.

If you can't make your point without misquotes, mind reading and exaggerations, maybe it's not a very good point afterall.

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