re: Massie the only republican to vote against the SAVE Act

No. When you can discuss policy and political philosophy without referencing groups, we can have a discussion. I've told you this many times.

You refuse, so you don't want to engage in honest discussion/debate. I offered you multiple opportunities to stop and you refuse. You made your choice.

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You can literally justify anything if you make your enemy dehumanized/evil enough. This isn't something, new, either.

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How do you fight back when that is done towards you? Stick your hand in the sand isn’t a good strategy for survival.

Identify a threat.

Do something to challenge the threat? Good idea.

Or do nothing as slow, Hank, and 3rd say. Terrible idea.

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What else is going on?

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Increasing government spending to new record levels, taking on a trillions more in debt for the American people. An issue that would be very important to you if you were an actual Ron Paul supporter rather than a lying piece of shite.

Starting new wars all over the world, carrying out the foreign policy of Israel and generally being Israels bitch.

Increase in the police and surveillance state costing tax payers billions of dollars so their own government can spy on them.

Trying to get rid of free speech in the name of antisemitism.

Straight up socialism with government buying shares in private companies.

All the Doge cuts were temporary and basically undone by the BBB an it's extreme spending.

Tariffs which just ended up being an increase in taxes and ignorant people think otherwise because they don't understand that Tariffs are not paid by the country importing, they are paid by American citizens who import, which is then passed on to tax payers.

Immigration might be good, except Trump and the neocons want badly to give them amnesty and has floated the idea multiple times. They are at the same time still shipping in lots of Chinese and others who have no care of liberty and only treat the US as an economic zone, of which generates revenue to the state.

And if given the chance, Trump will push for red flag gun laws again, just as he did in 2019.

The SAVE Act looks to be a total piece of crap since it doesn't require an ID when voting, doesn't stop things like mail in ballots or any of the other ways that are actually used to cheat in elections. Only addresses illegal immigrants at best, and pretends they will actually enforce these laws while they have continued to ignore existing laws.

And as far as elections go, Trump is only interested in taking revenge on those who cheated against him rather than fixing the system.

Not a single department was gutted. The FBI and intelligence agencies still work on behalf of the deep state for the purpose of covering up their crimes while attacking their criminal competition at best.

Increasing the MIC budget by over 50% and another trillion per year. Our foreign policy hasn't changed at all, still sending tons of money overseas.

Trump did everything he could to prevent the Epstein files from being released, calling it a hoax. Because he was given hundreds of millions of dollars to serve Israel.

Nobody has been held accountable for the shite they did during Covid.

The only draining of the swamp Trump has done is on his knees with his mouth open.

Overall, neocons have once again thwarted the conservative movement by appealing to the least common denominator(people like you) with bullshite propaganda and the illusion of "owning liberals" because of some stupid tweets.

Basically, it's business as usual and the only thing that changes is you're ignorant enough to listen to the propaganda that pisses on you and tells you it's raining.

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It’s funny to see how bothered you are by my votes for Ron Paul and Gary Johnson.

Congrats on your useless knowledge about ancient endorsements. Really showing your old age.

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You're just a liar is all. If you were a Ron Paul supporter, these debates would be something you were use to. They are only new to you.

Just like people claim they never really supported Bush and the Iraq war now, despite the fact that I dealt with the same exact kind of attacks then as I do now.

In 10 years you'll all claim you never supported this shite, or claim you were lied to and so forth. And now you're a real conservative! There will be another "red wave" and then you'll watch big government neocons do the same shite again. Happened in 80, happened in 2000, happened in 2024.

People like you are the reason democrats like Obama get into office. You ruin the reputation of republicans so badly that nobody will vote for them.

If you are lucky enough to live long enough to be an old man, maybe one day you'll pull your head out of your arse rather than being Charlie Brown.

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How does this not apply to the 215 who just voted against Republican principles (states rights)?

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States still have the right to conduct State elections without an ID card if that's how the state chooses. They just have to use an ID to vote in Federal elections. What you do in your state is your business, as long as it does not affect citizens of another state. Allowing illegals to vote in state elections in your state does not affect the lives of citizens of other states. Allowing illegals to vote in Federal Elections does affect the lives of citizens of other states.

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Ron Paul

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Gary Johnson

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One of these is not like the other.

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You're just a liar is all.

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It takes a very high level of depseration for one to make an absurd accusation like this.

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In 10 years you'll all claim you never supported this shite, or claim you were lied to and so forth. And now you're a real conservative! There will be another "red wave" and then you'll watch big government neocons do the same shite again. Happened in 80, happened in 2000, happened in 2024.

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I wouild ask you to teach me some history about these red waves, but we know you arent up to the task, so I will make it easy on you:

Who did you vote for every election from 1976-2024?

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People like you are the reason democrats like Obama get into office.

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Exactly my point as I was dumb enough to throw my vote away on Ron Paul. All 3rd party voters enabled the election of Obama, and sadly, some like you remain, refusing to swallow the red pill I was lucky to consume in May of 2020.

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I didn't vote in every election from 1976-2024.

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Ok, ignore the elections you did not vote in.

When you DID vote, who did you vote for from 1976-2024?

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Another lie, you were arguing for covid crap long after May of 2020.

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Are you lying to avoid the main point I just made about how pointless it is to vote 3rd party? How dumb it is to enable the far left takeover of our nation? The same thing you are still doing because you never found a red pill?

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chooses. They just have to use an ID to vote in Federal elections. What you do in your state is your business, as long as it does not affect citizens of another state.

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Good take