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re: Massie is evidently going after Trump. He's big mad over Iran.

Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:32 am to
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:32 am to
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How should we respond when Russia attacks a country trying to join the EU and become our ally? How should we respond when Iraq tries to get WMDs? How would we respond to a civil war breaking out in Libya trying to overthrow its longtime dictator, threatening to destabilize a dangerous region? How do we respond to ISIL running amuck in the ME?

In which one of your straw men was the US being attacked directly?

It’s also hilarious that you pretend the Muslims don’t want to kill us all. They literally chant “Death to America” and “kill all infidels”

By the way, that includes you.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 7:34 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:32 am to
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expanding valuable countries into the West is good for America.



As in adding Ukraine to NATO, and at the risk to starting WW3, I think not.

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Just like having key naval travel areas for trade safe, and expanding the safe areas for more trade


Then tell the UK to not cut our nose off despite our face by ceding the Chagos Islands to Mauritius. That’s of our concern. Ukraine is not.

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Just like Houthis shooting missiles at our ships to disrupt economic activity in key areas.


Agreed
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:36 am to
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As in adding Ukraine to NATO, and at the risk to starting WW3, I think not.

Yeah he doesn’t know his history, clearly.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:37 am to
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Yeah he doesn’t know his history, clearly.


None of them do. But they are all good with atacking Russia byt muh Houtis are off limits
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:39 am to
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In which one of your straw men was the US being attacked directly?

The "US" isn't being attacked directly in any of them

Our ships abroad=/= "the US"

That's you stretching things to justify your 180 on policy. Anyone with a little bit of dishonesty and creativity can do that (see: my examples)

This is the problem without having principles and relying on just malleable broad concepts with no definitions. It gives you plenty of wiggle room to be a complete hypocrite and then turn around and pretend that you're not.
Posted by MrGumshoes
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:39 am to
Why the hell do we care one way or the other if Ukraine joins Europe? It's not even remotely the same thing as what is occurring with the Houthis. Stop being a limp wristed sycophant of the globalist. I'd tell you to get laid more often but I don't support gay sex. You prove yet again that you are a retard.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:40 am to
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and at the risk to starting WW3, I think not.

Attacking Iran has the same risk

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:40 am to
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Yeah he doesn’t know his history, clearly.



Attacking Iran has the same risk of starting world War 3
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:41 am to
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byt muh Houtis are off limits


We are discussing attacking Iran
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:43 am to
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We are discussing attacking Iran


So the Houtis are not connected to Iran?

Good grief
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:47 am to
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Attacking Iran has the same risk of starting world War 3

I wonder if they weighed the risked of attacking US with state-sponsored terrorists
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:47 am to
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So the Houtis are not connected to Iran?

Reminds me of GWB telling us how Iraq was connected to AQ back in 2003.

You can always stretch it out to justify war if you have no set principles to fall back on.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:47 am to
So is that a yes or no?

Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:49 am to
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Our ships abroad=/= "the US"

Are you serious or are you just pretending to be dumb?
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 7:52 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:50 am to
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So is that a yes or no?

Russia is connected to both. Can we bomb them in Ukraine now?
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:51 am to
Its very simple question. Yes or No?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:51 am to
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Are you serious or are just pretending to be dumb?

Typical melt to having bad comparisons pointed out as bad.

And I already covered that in that very post

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That's you stretching things to justify your 180 on policy. Anyone with a little bit of dishonesty and creativity can do that (see: my examples)

This is the problem without having principles and relying on just malleable broad concepts with no definitions. It gives you plenty of wiggle room to be a complete hypocrite and then turn around and pretend that you're not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:52 am to
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Its very simple question. Yes or No?

Yes. That's largely irrelevant to the prior position of MAGA. Everyone is connected to everyone these days.

As I said, Russia is connected to both Iran and the Houthis. Can we attack Russia in Russia now?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:53 am to
That's the point I was just about to make. Every attack in the ME conclusively gets labeled "Iran-backed" by the media -- and the Biden admin. seemed to do this, too.
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