re: Massie going against Trump again

The fact that Massie is facing a high likelihood of being primaried tells me all I need to know: he's not getting his primary duty (taking care of his constituents) done. He's too busy looking for cameras/microphones to get in front of.

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Outside of immigration you would struggle to come up with two things. Trump has done that. He said he would do

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Deficit dropped.
Inflation rate dropped
Tariffs in place
Taking on the Cartels.
Investments int to the USA..

I could go on, but you only asked for 2. Consider the rest a gift.

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What you're arguing stated correctly would be, "the rate of inflation has dropped" which is different than "inflation dropped".

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Read above Ronnie

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Evidently you did need to look it up because... chatgpt. And since you have studied this extensively, I would have expected you to know all about the constitution, it being signed, and when it was signed/ratified. It was ratified on June 21, 1788.

The Quasi war. When did it happen? 10 years after the ratification of the Constitution that you claim does not allow a president to do this. Then explain the Quasi war. It was a purely Executive decision.

The Quasi-War (1798–1800) is one of the earliest and most important precedents for how presidential power can be used short of a declared war. It sits right at the intersection of constitutional limits, executive discretion, and congressional authorization.

And you know, since you are an attorney, I would have thought you would have known about the SCOTUS decision that 100% validated Adams. Bas v. Tingy (1800)

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I know all about that, but I appreciate the citation of Bas...I had forgotten the name. It certainly has no bearing on the issue of whether or not the President can use military force for alleged humanitarian purposes without Congressional authorization.

"This turned on the issue of "was France the enemy?" and the larger question of, "were we at war?" Washington proceeded to recognize the difference between a perfect war, where Congress declares war upon another country, and an imperfect war, where Congress does not declare but rather authorizes hostilities. Congress had, in this case, raised an army, suspended commerce with France and dissolved a treaty. This also allowed them to defend themselves against French ships and reclaim American ships as prize. This was, by all accounts, an imperfect war, qualifying France as an enemy under the 1799 law.

Bottom line
Bas v. Tingey stands for the rule that:
Military action without congressional authorization is unlawful, and executive orders do not immunize officers from liability."

"The Quasi War was AUTHORIZED by Congress.

What the Supreme Court said
In Bas v. Tingey (1800) and Talbot v. Seeman (1801), the Supreme Court confirmed:
The Quasi-War was authorized by Congress, but only to the extent provided by statute.
The Court described it as:
A limited, partial war
Lawful only within the boundaries Congress set
Any action outside those boundaries was unlawful — even if ordered by the President.
Why this matters constitutionally
The Quasi-War is a foundational precedent for modern war-powers debates because it shows:
?? Congress can authorize hostilities without declaring war
?? Presidential military action is lawful only within statutory limits
? The President cannot expand hostilities beyond what Congress authorized
This framework directly underlies later cases like:
Little v. Barreme (1804)
Youngstown (1952)"

As for using ChatGPT, I used to waste WAY too much time in citing and explaining case law here. A majority of people on the PoliBoard seem more interested in just feeling better about their positions. They aren't really interested in the truth.

So, you agree with me that Massie was correct that "Military strikes on Iran require Congressional authorization?"

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You posted that Massie was against Trump no matter what. I can only respond to the words you post here.

And for the record, Massie has supported things Trump has done well. Just like everybody else that voted for DT.

As for supporting MAGA, how can a grown-up do that when MAGA flops all around on policy? Remember when MAGA was America First, getting ready to burn down the deep state, address the deficit and debt, and end support for wars in Europe and the ME? Someone that agrees with all of that can't support MAGA on those matters given the flip flop.

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Thank you for taking the time to post.

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Read above Ronnie

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After a few dozen long exchanges with you, I'm used to your fingers (typing) being about 3 times as fast as your brain (thinking).

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Remember when MAGA was America First, getting ready to burn down the deep state, address the deficit and debt, and end support for wars in Europe and the ME?

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I certainly do.

And in those terms, Trump's second term has thus far, been a massive disappointment.

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As for supporting MAGA, how can a grown-up do that when MAGA flops all around on policy? Remember when MAGA was America First, getting ready to burn down the deep state, address the deficit and debt, and end support for wars in Europe and the ME? Someone that agrees with all of that can't support MAGA on those matters given the flip flop.

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It always goes back to the samething with you few. You have never understood Trump's plans. You latch on to one thing and leave everything else he stated out and then claim some sort of weird victory.

If you spent as much time actually learning what the policies are and why, then maybe you would "get it".

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It always goes back to the samething with you few. You have never understood Trump's plans. You latch on to one thing and leave everything else he stated out and then claim some sort of weird victory.

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I don't consider it a victory when the politicians I have supported have the power (votes) in DC and also hold the WH, and they don't get frick all done - outside of the border and deportations (well done so far).

Outside of the border and deportations, Trump and the republican congress have done little outside of "establishment business as usual".

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Exactly what I thought. Ronnie to the blessed end no matter what! We are done here Ron.

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I don't know what this means. I'll just remind myself that after a few dozen long exchanges with you, I'm used to your fingers (typing) being about 3 times as fast as your brain (thinking).