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re: Massie/Gallrein is a generational battleground.

Posted on 5/15/26 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 7:20 pm to
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Hoe many more Dem endorsements does Massie need to seal his win?

85% of Gallrein donors have donated to a Democrat within the last two cycles.
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2280 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 7:22 pm to
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Rich Baris is lying


Even if he is Baris has also said if the incumbent is only up 1-2% in the polls they’re cooked. The MOE is 3, Massie’s best poll this week is 50.6%-49.4% over Ed.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 7:23 pm
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2280 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 7:23 pm to
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85% of Gallrein donors have donated to a Democrat within the last two cycles.


This is false democrats aren’t donating to a MAGA endorsed candidate. Also Massie’s avg donation is $97 and you all think it’s millennials

You think millennials are dumping almost $100 donations while the avg gas price is $4.52/Gallon?
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 7:25 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23459 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:49 pm to
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This is false democrats aren’t donating to a MAGA endorsed candidate

Well you can argue with Gallreins own campaign disclosures.

I’m not sure why you’re surprised, Gallrein wasn’t even a Republican in the 2016-2020 cycle and is only getting this money because Israel related groups and donors like Miriam Adelson want Massie gone.

I get that people hear Trump say something and assume that’s all they need to know but this is literally attempting to replace one of the most consistent conservatives in the house with a guy who wasn’t even a Republican until recently.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:50 pm to


Posted by Dee_oh_Dee
Member since Aug 2024
218 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 6:01 am to
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At least check your facts before you start spouting your usual BS. There is an actual list.


I had a pretend libertarian-constitutionalist-but-really-just-a-never-Trumper irl told me it was 4d chess that all of the Dems had come out for Massie.

That these Dems really, really, really wanted the next Hitler over Massie.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477466 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 6:49 am to
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Rather than it being about generation, it really is a civil war battle of who really controls the GOP


Retard statement. Massie is one of the few libertarian-types in the GOP.

That segment won't "control" the GOP b/c your typical GOP and MAGA voters love big fedgov
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2280 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 6:58 am to
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Retard statement. Massie is one of the few libertarian-types in the GOP.


Perhaps he should actually run as one and see how that goes. He would never get elected though
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477466 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:13 am to
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Perhaps he should actually run as one and see how that goes. He would never get elected though


It's as if you have no understanding of the history of Massie until Trump told you not to like him.

Educate yourself. CSPAN video from 2016
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2280 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:27 am to
It’s almost like the most principled guy changed and really has nothing to show for himself to his constituents. Tell me what his Epstein bill , that was done with a liberal, actually accomplished.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477466 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:31 am to
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It’s almost like the most principled guy changed

But, he didn't.

The question is if the constituents changed or are being influenced by slop PR.

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and really has nothing to show for himself to his constituents.

Again, true small government conservatism is the extreme minority in the US. Considering how many times they've re-elected him, they understood this previously for several cycles.

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Tell me what his Epstein bill , that was done with a liberal, actually accomplished.

It did get a ton of files released.

Now, these files hurt rightwing CT-types, but that's b/c the Epstein saga doesn't appear to be what the rightwing CT-types promoted for years, as I tried to tell them for a long time on here.

Why reduce Massie's long and established voting record down to one bill that he passed and was popular? What's your primary issues with transparency, which is really what that bill was, at its heart?
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2280 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:33 am to
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Why reduce Massie's long and established voting record down to one bill that he passed and was popular?


Because just like his Epstein bill his voting record hasn’t solved any issues or made Americans lives any better. 14 years and all you guys can point to his his votes, no actual accomplishments.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477466 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:35 am to
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Because just like his Epstein bill his voting record hasn’t solved any issues


Wait, what did you expect the Epstein bill to "solve"?

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or made Americans lives any better. 14 years

Again, Massie is one voter. He can't make MAGA and the GOP commit to small government conservatism.

I believe small government conservatism would be good for American lives, but they prefer to suck the government tit.

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no actual accomplishments.

That says more about the regular GOP and MAGA than Massie
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11310 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:43 am to
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no actual accomplishments.

That says more about the regular GOP and MAGA than Massie


You have to remember, some of these people have no clue how the government functions.

In their view, a Representative should "accomplish" something to be good. Yet we have never been given examples of what "accomplishments" look like.

I've asked who are some good Rep Congressmen, one poster gave a couple of names, but couldn't list any accomplishments.

By that same token, Pelosi accomplished a lot. So maybe they really are Nancy supporters.

But the real truth is, Trump said Massie bad, so the hive minded followers say Massie bad.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 9:53 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:44 am to
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Because just like his Epstein bill his voting record hasn’t solved any issues or made Americans lives any better.


You seem to think Congress has way more power than they do, particularly as an individual member of the house.

Might be time for you to take an actual civics class.
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2280 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:45 am to
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You have to remember, some of these people have no clue how the government functions.


We’re all aware of how it functions and he’s just one person. He did get a bill passed in 72 hours though so don’t act like it can’t be done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477466 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:47 am to
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But the real truth is, Trump said Massie bad, so the hive minded followers say Massie bad.


Basically

Which says a lot about his constituents changing so drastically and the frailty of mob psychology.

But the larger picture always falls back on small government types understanding they're in the extreme minority. Those who truly support the movement know they will never enact large-scale change due to this.

Big-government NPCs trying to spin this into a negative are just revealing their own rational incompetence when they make the argument. When they spin it into team-based ideologies the rhetorical debasement is completely revealed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:51 am to
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Which says a lot about his constituents changing so drastically and the frailty of mob psychology.


I am very interested in seeing how MAGA aficionados settle when Trump is out of office.

Most will never be able to return as fiscal conservatives; they've totally lost any political identity outside of the Trumposphere.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98418 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:55 am to
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85% of Gallrein donors have donated to a Democrat within the last two cycles.


Daily Caller says 85% have a history of voting Dem

So both Massie and Gallrein are the Dems preferred choice

Yet the cult are trying to defend masshole as some staunch cuckservative

Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
158098 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 8:32 am to
I see your post was ignored by a particular feller.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 8:33 am
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