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re: Markets may be turbulent tomorrow due to contraction in the AI sector

Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:02 am to
Posted by Bwmdx
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:02 am to
That would explain a lot. May be a good chance to buy NVDIA and ride the upstroke after we have confirmed, once again, that China is ahhhsssshole
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:05 am to
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FWIW, Buffett exited a number of positions last year going to cash instead. He's couched his reasoning some, but it appears he anticipated that his guy, Potatobrain, would be reelected, and would subsequently raise CapGains and tank the market in no particular order.

At that point, Buffett planned to deploy his cash during the ensuing fire sale.




What is Buffett doing now? I've been in cash for over a year now anticipating a big market drop only to miss out on the gains for past year. The market is so fluffy right now. It just seems like it needs a correction very badly.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:05 am to
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I posted a thread over month ago warning about ... Warren Buffet selling close to 50% of his Apple shares.
Then, as was pointed out, that information was about 9 months old when you posted it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466552 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:07 am to
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That would explain a lot. May be a good chance to buy NVDIA and ride the upstroke after we have confirmed, once again, that China is ahhhsssshole


Yeah THAT makes sense. $6M my arse

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16471 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:10 am to
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China is ahhhsssshole

Derpseek was accidentally created at a wet market
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:11 am to
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Yeah THAT makes sense. $6M my arse
Right there with "We only started 2 months ago."
Posted by Hookah
Member since Nov 2023
349 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:12 am to
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$6M my arse


They spent way more than that just to RENT H100s to get around export restrictions. Additionally, NVDA is more than just LLM use cases. The only groundbreaking news about deepseek is that they made their code open source which is what OpenAI should’ve done and stayed non-profit, in which case Elon was right.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:14 am to
In terms of the market, while this DeepSeek AI story will negatively impact the stock market I think the real impact is the Federal Reserve hesitancy keep the 10 year note prices high. A week or so ago the yields were approaching 5% but have been slowly tapering down and now trading in the 4.5% range. But this is still a very attractive "risk free" rate. The point is, as the bond market becomes more attractive the more money will flow to it, from equities.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:17 am to
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about 9 months old when you posted it


Which has nothing to do with me warning about a crash over a month ago. In that thread people like you said I was fear mongering and didn't know what I was talking about. You don't think someone like Buffet didn't know about deepseek and how the US tech companies wasted billions investing in AI when that type of investment in hardware was not going to be needed with AI. You think that might have something to do with him selling his Apple stock...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466552 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:19 am to
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You don't think someone like Buffet didn't know about deepseek and how the US tech companies wasted billions investing in AI when that type of investment in hardware was not going to be needed with AI


They did invest billions in hardware.

ETA: I'll be more precise. They're USING billions in hardware
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 8:22 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135660 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:20 am to
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the Federal Reserve hesitancy keep the 10 year note prices high

Those rates are auction driven.
Posted by Hookah
Member since Nov 2023
349 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:20 am to
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Which has nothing to do with me warning about a crash over a month ago. In that thread people like you said I was fear mongering and didn't know what I was talking about. You don't think someone like Buffet didn't know about deepseek and how the US tech companies wasted billions investing in AI when that type of investment in hardware was not going to be needed with AI. You think that might have something to do with him selling his Apple stock...


Let’s revisit this in a month. We can make a wager. I’ll take a ban, while you are not allowed to post your X threads anymore.
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:21 am to
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$6M my arse



You must of missed this guys Twitter thread which breaks down exactly how Deepseek accomplished this. You should go educate yourself and listen to someone who knows what they are talking about.

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This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 8:32 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133633 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:22 am to
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What is Buffett doing now? I
Between December 17 and January 3 Berkshire Hathaway bought:

- 8.9 million shares of Occidental Petroleum ($409 million).

- 5 million shares of Sirius XM (SIRI -0.77%) ($107 million).

- 474 thousand shares of Verisign (VRSN 1.97%) ($94 million).

There may have been other purchases but these three purchases were the only ones involving owning 10%+ of the outstanding shares in those companies and thus were required to be reported to the SEC which releases the information to the public.

The Motley Fool - Jan 26, 2025
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466552 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:22 am to
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Those rates are auction driven.


Don't take the bait. Just ignore him when he tries to make every thread about the fed
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466552 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:23 am to
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You must of missed this guys Twitter thread which breaks down exactly how Deepseek accomplished this


You must have missed that part where they are using billions in Nvidia GPUs
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133633 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:26 am to
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you said I...didn't know what I was talking about.
Always a safe bet...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:28 am to
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Those rates are auction driven.




How do you think the FR achieves stated interest rate policy? They don't push a button and magic happens. They physically have to make it happen on the bond market and they do so through their primary dealers by reacting to market conditions by buying and selling as appropriate.

When the FR wants high bond prices they QE (depending on market they generally buy).

When the FR wants low bond prices they tighten (depending on market they generally sell).
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:29 am to
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They spent way more than that just to RENT H100s 


Damn the Cope is strong.. Did you believe Mr. Wang who just had his company destroyed by Deepseek releasing a free Open source product. Yes he is going to try and convince people Deepseek spent more money on this
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:30 am to
Thanks.
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