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re: Mark of the beast in our lifetime?

Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:56 am to
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
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Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:56 am to
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Putting his Word of the Day calendar to use finally.

for the last two years or so here... so not daily.

Pay attention Sparky.

Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:02 am to
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Mark of the beast

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:03 am to
Agree completely, Foo
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Perhaps you should ask me my thoughts on the topic rather than presume that I fall in line with a view that actually denies the truth of Christianity.

I'm a Christian because of my love for Christ, not because I have some sort of jealous hatred and fantasy about others suffering forever. Why would I frequently tell others on this site to repent of their sins and put their trust in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior to forgive their sins if I actually wanted them to suffer forever? If your hypothesis was correct, Christians wouldn't share the gospel but would purposefully withhold it. We would be hiding the truth so that others wouldn't have the opportunity to believe it and be saved, but that's not what we do.

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I think this is truly how Foo, and a great many of “religious Christians” really feel. You’re not religious out of a love for your religion, etc. You’re religious because you harbor fantasies of revenge against people that you hate or are jealous of. I understand the feelings. Those are natural human feelings.
To the sarcasm and dialectic addled:

Why some "harbor fantasies" is beside the basic legitimate right and freedom of religion that you try to irritate as part of your dialectic, Hegelian or Marxian aside.

As for myself, there is a primal acknowledgement for the righteous goodness and righteousness of what is a reality of the teachings of Jesus and the tenets he brought the world.

This is beyond such wishes of those with YOUR "fantasy" that an ongoing cycle of chaos, revolution followed by death and genocide is what people seek, thus YOUR religion. YOUR "fantasy".

I believe the teachings of Jesus and those who take up "the cross" in their lives. I very much believe it to be a reality. A reality that is every bit as legitimate - moreso - than your gutter "cycles of evil", also a reality of YOUR gutter religion fantasies.

And before you go there, it is a well documented historical sequence and presence that is as provable as almost the entirety of history. MUCH more than what Hegel and Marx taught those who share your "feelings". In absentia and by YOUR "faith".

Not my "feelings" but a well developed occurrence of goodness... that I feel an elemental view that resides in the chosen that those like you feel should be mocked as a result of your evil dialectic. I believe it intellectually but existentially as core truth.

I have visceral experience demonstrating this truth. I have proof that it is righteous. I believe it to be the truth of mankind - the goodness of that truth and that the cycle of dialectic, chaotic catastrophe, revolution, death, and genocide is purely evil.

Freedom.

Praise God from who all blessings flow, not just a convenient "feeling". There is much more..
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3338 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Squirrelmeister and his ilk will continue to vehemently deny the existence of the one true God and the inerrancy of biblical prophecy.


The “one true god” did a pure shite job of divinely inspiring inerrancy. Who, exactly, incited David to conduct the census, as indicated by the plain text of the Bible? Was it Lord YHWH, or was it Satan? Is this a contradiction, or is your “god” actually Satan?

2 Samuel 24:1-2
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Again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” So the king said to Joab, the commander of the army, who was with him, “Go through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan to Beersheba, and number the people, that I may know the number of the people.”


1 Chronicles 21:1-2
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Then Satan stood against Israel and incited David to number Israel. So David said to Joab and the commanders of the army, “Go, number Israel, from Beersheba to Dan, and bring me a report, that I may know their number.”
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34698 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 3:25 pm to
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How does it feel to be wrong?


How does it feel to mentally masturbate and upvote yourself. If you’d care to elaborate on your puerile comment then I’d be glad to engage like adults. I have no strong opinions about things that aren’t plain and clear in the Bible. So if you’re looking for a fight, then go elsewhere.

More specifically: do you claim we are NOT living in end times? I think it is pretty clear that the last of days began with Christ’s ascension (or many say at Pentecost).

Do you think persecuted Christians in the first century AD did NOT believe they were living in the last of days?

I made no comment about the mark on the right hand, money or 666. I made two statements that I’m happy discuss with you. Again if you want to act like something other than a petulant toddler.

Eta: if you’re trying to engage about full preterism then give me your best arguments and I’ll gladly fairly consider them.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 3:32 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45577 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 3:57 pm to
God allowed Satan to tempt David. God was the first cause and Satan was the second cause. In that way, God “did” it by having Satan “do” it.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 5/5/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Squirrelmeister


When the antichrist arrives you definitely have a job as their speech writer. You use the Bible exactly how I would expect Satan to use it to turn souls away from God. Lucifer taught you well
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3338 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 5:33 pm to
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When the antichrist arrives


Why do you call me the devil for denying scripture when you do the same?????

1 John 2:18-19
2 John 1:7

The antichrist is already here, bro. In fact there are many antichrists, if you believe the holy scripture.
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
1008 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 5:38 pm to
Seems there's always an Antichrist waiting as only God knows the timing. Gotta have someone ready to go at all times.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34698 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 5:51 pm to
I was just reading GK Beale on that very topic. Stoked I get to meet him in June.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3338 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:36 pm to
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Seems there's always an Antichrist


Lots of antichrists in this thread even, where apologists of one of the jealous bloodthirsty Old Testament gods, YHWH, are at odds with the teachings of Jesus.

YHWH says in Jeremiah 48:10…
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Cursed is he who does the work of the LORD with slackness, and cursed is he who keeps back his sword from bloodshed.


Jesus healed the blind, healed the sick, and raised people from the dead. He preached non-violence and to turn the other cheek. He said let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Jesus is not YHWH nor is he YHWH’s son. Anyone following YHWH, the desert demon who gave Moses “the law”, who killed the Egyptian firstborn, who demanded blood sacrifice, who killed his first high priest Aaron’s two boys for burning incense, who told Joshua to murder every man, woman, child, and infant in Canaan, is an antichrist.
Posted by yimbo
Member since Nov 2022
404 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:48 pm to
fricking nut jobs
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45577 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:12 pm to
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I was just reading GK Beale on that very topic. Stoked I get to meet him in June.
That’s cool. I have his shorter commentary on Revelation, which I think is excellent. I’d like to meet him.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34698 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:54 pm to
Two-day seminar at Greenville Pres Theological Seminary in June. Cmon up!
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45577 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:06 pm to
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Lots of antichrists in this thread even, where apologists of one of the jealous bloodthirsty Old Testament gods, YHWH, are at odds with the teachings of Jesus.

YHWH says in Jeremiah 48:10…
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Cursed is he who does the work of the LORD with slackness, and cursed is he who keeps back his sword from bloodshed.

You know nothing of the truth. You twist the Scriptures in an attempt the drive Christians away from Christ, who is King of kings and Lord of lords. You will be judged like the people of Moab if you do not repent of your rebellion against the king of the universe.

Jeremiah 48 is a chapter devoted to the judgement of Moab, and it says as much several times throughout. The judgement is against a nation that rejected God and worshipped Chemosh, as you know from the several times I refuted your lies in the past about that.

God is a holy God, and He is just. Sin must be punished or else God would not be just, and when a people rebel against the king and refuse to repent of their sin against Him, they will be judged by eternal hellfire. The sword mentioned in Jeremiah is nothing compared to eternal suffering for an eternal offense against God.

When God calls the people of Israel to draw their swords, He's doing so to use them as an instrument of His vengeance against a nation and a people that have committed cosmic treason. There is nothing "bloodthirsty" about God executing justice, especially when in that very chapter, God says He will restore them and their fortunes after the judgement.

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Jesus healed the blind, healed the sick, and raised people from the dead. He preached non-violence and to turn the other cheek. He said let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
The God of the Old Testament also healed, raised from the dead, commanded His people not to be violent towards one another and to forgive. There is one God, not two, and not three. Jesus taught from the Old Testament because that was God's inscripturated Word. Jesus did not come to do away with the Old Testament, but to fulfill it. He said so, Himself.

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Jesus is not YHWH nor is he YHWH’s son. Anyone following YHWH, the desert demon who gave Moses “the law”, who killed the Egyptian firstborn, who demanded blood sacrifice, who killed his first high priest Aaron’s two boys for burning incense, who told Joshua to murder every man, woman, child, and infant in Canaan, is an antichrist.
I think you need to read the Bible instead of reading those anti-Christian websites that take the Bible out of context.

You think Jesus is not a man and God of Justice? Jesus will not save everyone, not even those who call Him "Lord" and work miracles in His name, but He will cast those who do not trust in Him by faith into outer darkness to suffer for eternity (Matt. 7--right after He talks about not judging others). When He returns, He will do so in judgement. Here is that text from Revelation 19. Tell me that Christ isn't a man of war:

Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

Lastly, Christ, Himself, said that He didn't come to bring peace to the world, but a sword. His mission wasn't to be some peaceful hippie like you wrongfully think, but He came to reveal the Kingdom of God through His sacrificial death, calling people to repent of their sins and to follow Him by faith or perish in eternal suffering (Jesus talked more about Hell than Heaven). He explains this in Matt. 10, where He said that He came to divide families against each other, because what is most important in this life is having peace with the Father through the mediation of the Son, not having peace with even your family.

So think again if you think that the Son and the Father are at odds with one another. There is but one God in three persons, and you need to repent of your faithless rebellion against Him.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 10:08 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45577 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:07 pm to
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Two-day seminar at Greenville Pres Theological Seminary in June. Cmon up!
I'd love to. Got a family camp and Synod to attend in June. Have fun.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:07 pm to
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Mark of the beast in our lifetime?


I fricking hope so. Imagine dying 1 day before the mark of the beast goes live and never knowing
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 10:08 pm
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3550 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:23 pm to
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YHWH, are at odds with the teachings of Jesus.
no. you just lack understanding.

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who told Joshua to murder every man, woman, child, and infant in Canaan, is an antichrist.
wasn't murder

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Jesus is not YHWH nor is he YHWH’s son.
gonna be a difficult forever for you
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3550 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:25 pm to
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Imagine dying 1 day before the mark of the beast goes live and never knowing

first of all, you don't want to be here when the mark of the beast is active. secondly, people who are alive will not realize it's the mark or the antichrist. You people are just so oblivious.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:39 pm to
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first of all, you don't want to be here when the mark of the beast is active.


Yes I do.

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secondly, people who are alive will not realize it's the mark or the antichrist


That's what I want to see. How truly stupid human beings are, including 99% of the so-called religious people who will willingly accept the mark of the beast while preaching against it.

Me? I'll be fine, trust me.

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You people are just so oblivious.


You are a coward. That is when your faith will be truly tested.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 11:24 pm
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