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re: Mark Kelly (D-AZ) says he needs to now worry about being assassinated
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:18 am to shoelessjoe
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:18 am to shoelessjoe
quote:How is that question relevant to any point I have addressed in this thread?
What orders did Trump give that were illegal?
ITT, we are discussing Trump's assertion that Kelly, et al have committed criminal acts by that little video.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 12:27 am
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:56 am to shoelessjoe
Come on. You and Dear Leader assert that Kelly has broken the law with his little video.
Make your case.
Cite the specific laws that you claim were broken.
Set forth the "facts" that you contend would constitute a violation of that statute.
It is YOUR claim. Support it.
Make your case.
Cite the specific laws that you claim were broken.
Set forth the "facts" that you contend would constitute a violation of that statute.
It is YOUR claim. Support it.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:38 am to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
(1)advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or
From US Code 2387
I'd say they broke the HELL out of that one......
ANY MANNER.This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 1:48 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 5:08 am to HighStatus
He consciously collaborated with other DEMOCRAT Senators to put a video out that tells service members to defy "illegal" orders from the CIC.
All without saying what those "illegal" orders might or could be. You know and I know it is to sow doubt in those young minds that the commander in chief is stable and is in the wrong!
Now, why wasn't this advice given during the Biden administration? Because it is (D)ifferent now
Sounds insurrectiony to me!
All without saying what those "illegal" orders might or could be. You know and I know it is to sow doubt in those young minds that the commander in chief is stable and is in the wrong!
Now, why wasn't this advice given during the Biden administration? Because it is (D)ifferent now
Sounds insurrectiony to me!
Posted on 11/23/25 at 5:50 am to antibarner
quote:
(1)advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or
From US Code 2387
I'd say they broke the HELL out of that one...... ANY MANNER.
Now that's gonna leave an e-bruise.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:20 am to shinerfan
The Turnip Biden gang raped people over that poison Covid Vaccine...if that wasn't an illegal order I don't know what was....forcing people to take an unproven vaccine that turned out to be not worth a shite and demonstrably harmful, and if they did not going after those that wouldn't.
WHERE were these stalwarts THEN?????? They should arrest the lot of them.
WHERE were these stalwarts THEN?????? They should arrest the lot of them.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 7:22 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:52 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Charge them
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:54 am to OchoDedos
quote:
What a poor f'ing weak dick of an excuse for a Naval Officer and a US Senator, who unfortunately represents many Active, Reserve, and Veteran Service Members
He also represented Charlie Kirk who was, you know, actually assassinated.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:59 am to antibarner
good Lord, it is tedious trying to get you people to focus.
This thread is about whether Kelly committed sedition, and section 2387 does not address sedition.
if you want to argue that a reminder to military personnel that they should follow the law constitutes an invitation to “insubordination,“ you are welcome to make that argument. Let’s just say that I don’t think your argument would meet with much success in a courtroom.
This thread is about whether Kelly committed sedition, and section 2387 does not address sedition.
if you want to argue that a reminder to military personnel that they should follow the law constitutes an invitation to “insubordination,“ you are welcome to make that argument. Let’s just say that I don’t think your argument would meet with much success in a courtroom.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:03 am to RelentlessAnalysis
He clearly violated the statute. The question was did he break the law. I say yes he did.
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That's what you asked. Answered.No more double talk.
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quote:
Come on. You and Dear Leader assert that Kelly has broken the law with his little video.
Make your case.
Cite the specific laws that you claim were broken.
That's what you asked. Answered.No more double talk.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 9:08 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:09 am to antibarner
quote:Fair enough.
Come on. You and Dear Leader assert that Kelly has broken the law with his little video. Make your case. Cite the specific laws that you claim were broken.quote:
That's what you asked. Answered (with 2387).
I admit that there is at least a “good faith argument” to be made that the tweet in question was an invitation to “insubordination” under 2387, though I doubt that this argument will hold any water in the courtroom.
Are you equally willing to admit that the tweet does not remotely qualify as statutory “sedition” under 2384, due to the lack of violent force?
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 9:13 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:16 am to RelentlessAnalysis
I havent even addressed sedition. It's a clear attempt to get members of the armed forces and the intel community to disobey the chain of command.
Were it me I'd charge them and put it in the hands of the courts using 2387, They deserve a trip through the legal system because of the dangerous game theyre playing.
I ask again where were they when the military members needed them during the Covid fiasco? Nowhere..
Were it me I'd charge them and put it in the hands of the courts using 2387, They deserve a trip through the legal system because of the dangerous game theyre playing.
I ask again where were they when the military members needed them during the Covid fiasco? Nowhere..
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 9:17 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:42 am to HighStatus
quote:
Y'all confidently say things like this and actually think y'all are the good people in this country lmao.
His wife was shot in the head by a right winger years ago. He has reason to be paranoid. But to y'all, he's the bad guy lol.
Oh look, another low IQ retard.
The same day that same loon KILLED a REPUBLICAN judge? Whey does the judge never get mentioned?
That was a rhetorical question. I know you will lie.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:43 am to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
Dear Leader
I'm so glad I no longer vote next to retards like you.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:43 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
frick him.
Why do such shite members of Congress come from Arizona?
Why do such shite members of Congress come from Arizona?
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 11:55 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:59 am to antibarner
quote:
They deserve a trip through the legal system because of the dangerous game theyre playing.
yep - hope they enjoy the 'ride'
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:40 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Is he pretending that that's not exactly the fate that he and his party want for Our President?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:40 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
yep - hope they enjoy the 'ride'
too bad it won't end in a helicopter
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:41 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
This is deeply troubling. Keep in mind they think ANY insurrection is RIGHTIOUS criticism of Trump and the principle of MAGA.
They know what is best with their false democracy
They know what is best with their false democracy
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:42 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
quote:
Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ) ridiculously says he needs to now worry about being as**ssinated.
More so now than before?
This clown is milking this for all it’s worth.
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