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Many were saying the Senate couldn’t try Trump...
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:01 pm
Since he’s not in office. How will that be decided?
Will Robert’s preside at the trial?
Will Robert’s preside at the trial?
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:05 pm to pensacola
Yeah, don’t know. Roberts knows this is really unconstitutional, and won’t hold up; pretty much said so.....Kind of have to wait and see, as now law enforcement has destroyed the narrative of incitement
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:21 pm to CamdenTiger
The Chief Justice is only there when POTUS is on trial, and POTUS is not on trial.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:35 pm to pensacola
Even if it goes to trial, it’s null and void no matter the decision. Turley and Dershowitz both said so and they haven’t been wrong about the law so far.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:42 pm to pensacola
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Since he’s not in office. How will that be decided?
Will Robert’s preside at the trial?
Roberts is out. The Deep State has control if him, but even he is not dumb enough to preside at an unconstitutional impeachment. Only a person IN office can be impeached.
If trump committed a crime, then the courts will have to decide. Hs is a private citizen now.
Even if they do follow through with this fake impeachment it will not be legal; therefore, he will still be able to run for office.
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 3:08 am
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:44 pm to pensacola
I want a trial so fraud evidence can be introduced
after that it can be nullified
after that it can be nullified
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:57 pm to Kafka
I want that to, but why would the deepstate allow any of the truth to be heard? They know all to well that info would end them.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:23 am to Kafka
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I want a trial so fraud evidence can be introduced
This is my desire as well, even though I believe Trump can't be tried or convicted. But...if for some insane reason, there IS a trial, I hope we can wait until the Republicans have the majority in both houses, then we can go back and impeach and convict Obama and Buyden and Harris. Maybe we can even go back and impeach Herbert Hoover...
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:33 am to BFIV
Hoover is the one that started this whole Transgender movement by marry some guy/girl named Lou Henry. True story.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:40 am to CamdenTiger
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Roberts knows this is really unconstitutional, and won’t hold up;
William W Belknap, Secretary of War for Ulysses S. Grant, was impeached and tried (acquitted) after he resigned from office. So, if Trump is found guilty (which I doubt at this point), we'd have to see what the Supreme court decides. I don't think it's settled law at this point.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:52 am to DocBugbear
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William W Belknap, Secretary of War for Ulysses S. Grant, was impeached and tried
He wasn't the current or former President, though. Constitution makes this very clear.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:17 am to BFIV
No, the Constitution does NOT make this clear.
Trump was POTUS when he was impeached for a crime he is said to have committed while POTUS. Belknap wasn't even in office when he was impeached and they still had a trial.
Members of the Executive Branch are not exempt from impeachment trials or that would make a POTUS able to break any law in the last months of his term and get off scott free.
Have the damned trial...you know he won't be convicted.
Trump was POTUS when he was impeached for a crime he is said to have committed while POTUS. Belknap wasn't even in office when he was impeached and they still had a trial.
Members of the Executive Branch are not exempt from impeachment trials or that would make a POTUS able to break any law in the last months of his term and get off scott free.
Have the damned trial...you know he won't be convicted.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:25 am to pensacola
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Since he’s not in office. How will that be decided?
They dgaf...if you haven't noticed yet...
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:26 am to GeorgeWest
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hat would make a POTUS able to break any law in the last months of his term and get off scott free.
I disagree. At that point, the President would be a private citizen and be subject to civil law procedures. And the Constitution is very clear, in my opinion. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides over the Senate trial of an impeached current President. He does not preside over the Senate trial of an impeached former President. A Senate impeachment trial is not to decide or administer justice. It's only purpose is to remove from office the current President.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:27 am to pensacola
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How will that be decided?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:27 am to GeorgeWest
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No, the Constitution does NOT make this clear.
Trump was POTUS when he was impeached for a crime he is said to have committed while POTUS. Belknap wasn't even in office when he was impeached and they still had a trial
Yeah, unless the SC feels like nipping it...which Trump isn't even suing fedgov over it...
You are correct. They'll do whatever until they're told to stop.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:29 am to BFIV
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Constitution
They dgaf about that if you haven't noticed.
Gangsters don't care about the law either.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:33 am to BFIV
Thank You!!!! It’s about time that someone pointed out the obvious to some of these idiots. The whole point of impeachment is to remove a sitting POTUS from office. To waste one more second or dime of tax payer money on trying to go after Trump is not only an abuse of power by lawmakers but a total failure in doing the job they was sent to do in the first place. Every politician in Congress that has went along with or goes along with this political stunt should e removed from office themselves promptly!!!!
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:11 am to BFIV
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I disagree.
I disagree based on the rationale that impeachment has enumerated penalties that may be imposed which run past removal from office and more importantly can not be levied by any other tribunal. To suggest otherwise indicates that a president later in their term may commit impeachable offenses and avoid those specific penalties due to the timing of their transgressions.
I personally do not think he should have been impeached nor do I think he will be convicted by the Senate. That aside the loss of the ability to impose the penalties provided for in Art I doesn't make sense to me. I do agree this is a novel matter at this point with no directly analogous precedent.
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