re: Man dead after refusing to show police ID

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DawgfaninCa





Look, you are a thug cop. I know hundreds of guys like you. You are a dime a dozen punk who couldn't find a legitimate job so you grabbed that government tit with both lips as hard as you could and are hanging on for dear life. It isn't totally your fault. Your government(s) look for poor suckers like you with low self esteem, disinclined to improve yourself and with virtually no hope of asserting your manhood on the normal population without the assistance of a judicial system to back your anti social tendencies. Really, your just serving your master because your master gives you the reassurance that feeding him is moral, and that the ends justify the means. As a favor to your kind, he rarely feeds on you and your associates. I mean, why bite the hand that feeds? Right?

In exchange your kind are a pariah among the gen pop "civvies". You are begrudgingly given your 10% discounts at fast food restaurants, after showing your badge when off duty (uncomfortable to say the least) because nobody wants to tempt the beast. You walk the isles at gun shows and pawn shops with your ridiculous 1940's airborne paratrooper haircuts and strike up conversation with war veterans, as though your "battle for the streets" in suburban America is symbolically or otherwise related in any way to the realities of combat on foreign soil. Even the soldiers hate you though. They remember that they are food for you just like anyone else. They laugh at your selective enforcement, particularly when you make stupid claims like "there are no small laws" and "breaking the law is breaking the law". They know your kind don't venture into high risk neighborhoods unless you absolutely must. Meanwhile they adhere to an ROE that dwarfs the restriction you have on our native soil, all while facing threats that would literally stain your underwear. You aren't interested in "enforcing the law" unless you can do so at relatively little risk to yourself. You don't go toe to toe with hardened criminals, unless by accident of course. When the occasion arises, you cower in fear as is documented time and time again through the annals of crime history. You find it easier to gang tackle and crush people to death in parking lot of a movie theater, or taze pregnant women in their cars, or shoot at newspaper delivery ladies, or even kill schizophrenic bums. You always justify it by making erroneous claims like "he is required to show proper ID, or be detained" (not true, of course).

I know that you try to push these realities out of your mind, but every time you do it makes you more and more self conscious about how weak your resolve is in the face of a real threat. That feeling creates a need to turn the routine into a "potential threat", a scenario that allows you to feel as though you are bravely doing your duty in the face of grave danger on a regular basis. An emotional father dealing with a family crises is processed in your tiny, weak brain as a possible "dangerous criminal" on the basis that he didn't yield his ID (not required by law). You know that simply asking his name would have gotten you the result needed to sort out the situation, but that leaves little room for the assertion of your dominance, doesn't it? Without some silly escalation, your just a guy walking the streets doing a routine job. Your kind have utilized every trick in the book for escalating the routine to keep the truth at bay. You are weak.

There are a few among you who perform their jobs with respect for the people they are intended (and paid) to serve. They are heroes in my mind. You, are not one of them despite your 10% discounts and sweet deals you get on oakley sunglasses. When I see one your betters wearing the uniform, I make it a point to compliment them and thank them for performing at such an admirable level (I actually found one yesterday, and did exactly that).

I don't know what really happened in the case in question in this thread. I can make an educated guess after decades of interaction with police officers and the facts that have been published thus far. Unfortunately, I think there is little hope that the results of the actions of the policemen in question will be justified, or that they will ever see a day in court.

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Look, you are a thug cop. I know hundreds of guys like you. You are a dime a dozen punk who couldn't find a legitimate job so you grabbed that government tit...blah, blah, blah...



Hey moron, I've been self-employed as a designer/jeweler for over forty years.

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Fairly obvious you weren't a cop when you pooped your britches on cops and the executive branch earlier. Even more obvious when you followed that with a presumption cops would show up in a crowded parking lot at night w/o so much as a hint of a description as to who they were pursuing.

A guy is dead, a guy that was innocent. He was not threatening the officers, he is dead because he crossed his arms and looked at them mean. He was walking away.

For you to continually think all was perfect is just asinine. I have been clear, the 'suspect' made some poor decisions, but he is a citizen he is not expected to make good ones. Police officers are expected to deescalate and make prudent decisions, I don't think that is too much to ask. In this case they could have let him walk off, insure he wasn't a threat, and calmed him down especially when they knew he was the father and the husband. Just common sense tells you it is emotionally charged.

The police force and officers are my assets, I don't think them jumping folks and exposing themselves to unnecessary risks is a good use of my tax dollars.

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Fairly obvious you weren't a cop when you pooped your britches on cops and the executive branch earlier

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It's simply being open-minded.

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the frick?

what cops do and do not have the authority to do to a citizen who is not actively committing a crime is not a subjective thing

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Fairly obvious you weren't a cop when you pooped your britches on cops and the executive branch earlier.

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The only shite around here is the bullshite coming out of your mouth.

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Even more obvious when you followed that with a presumption cops would show up in a crowded parking lot at night w/o so much as a hint of a description as to who they were pursuing.

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So you think that cops won't show up at a domestic violence incident in a crowded parking lot at night if they don't know who is committing the domestic violence.

I got to hand it to dawgfan. If nothing else, he is persistent. Reminds me of a dog persistently chasing his tail in a circle (pun intended), but at least hes not a quitter!

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The cops have the legal authority to arrest you if they reasonably suspect that you committed a crime even if you are actually innocent of that crime.

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could not be less relevant to the discussion unless this guy was under arrest, or less relevant to what i said

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You have a lot to learn, junior.

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this amuses me, mildly

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That's correct.

You don't know...shite!

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BOOM!

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I just think he made a big mistake that cost him his life by not fully cooperating with the police even if he was emotional over his wife and daughter.

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Point well made.

Never forget to bow down to your masters in blue, if you do, it will be a big mistake that may cost you your life.

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