re: Man dead after refusing to show police ID

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it is possible that the man tried to interfere with the police and they could have been trying to restrain him and/or arrest him for interfering with the duty of a police officer or for not following the order of a police officer.

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Anything is "possible."
For example, it is possible that the man tried to interfere with the police and the police simply all forgot that little detail. Instead they insist they were simple trying to wrest an ID from the guy. What a curious lapse of memory that would represent

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Provide me with the evidence when the "suspect" and the wife told the cops what happened because if the police were told at the scene that the mother hit the daughter and the police were trying to arrest the wife then it is possible that the man tried to interfere with the police and they could have been trying to restrain him and/or arrest him for interfering with the duty of a police officer or for not following the order of a police officer.

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No one should ever be treated like that for failing to follow the order of an officer, unless that person has committed a serious crime.

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The police report states a witness said she saw a fight outside the movie theater between family members. When officers arrived, they said Nair was walking away from Luis and their daughter and refused to stop on their commands.

The officer said she eventually did stop and told him them that she hit her daughter in the face because she "had lied to her and called her dirty names and was being deceitful"

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Officers had asked Luis what was happening and Luis responded by saying it was "none of his business" and they were dealing with a "family matter". He eventually told police that his wife had hit their daughter and officers asked him for his identification.

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The actual suspect told police what happened as did the innocent man.

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Officers had asked Luis what was happening and Luis responded by saying it was "none of his business" and they were dealing with a "family matter". He eventually told police that his wife had hit their daughter and officers asked him for his identification.

According to the report, Luis refused, crossed his arms, and walked away. One of the officers said he believed Luis was taking an aggressive stance with another officer and tried to get around the officer several times. The officer said he believed Luis was trying to "go after Nair".

Officers asked Luis for identification again and that's when officers say he took a fighting stance with them. The officers wrote they were trying to place him in investigative detention until they could find his identification and determine is involvement in the domestic assault they were investigating.

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Looks like the police fricked it up from the start, didn't know what to do and went after the man. At the point they are roughing him up, they had been told what had actually happened, by the person who actually did it. Looks like the guy was guilty of crossing his arms (aggressive stance I guess) and walking away.

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Anything is "possible."
For example, it is possible that the man tried to interfere with the police and the police simply all forgot that little detail. Instead they insist they were simple trying to wrest an ID from the guy. What a curious lapse of memory that would represent

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So now the story is that the man had an ID and the police knew he had an ID and were trying to wrestle it away from him?

Can you tell me where you got that information?

"Officer: We have medical on the way, ma’am.

Nair: This person, this, our youngest daughter, has been treating us like crap.

Officer: OK, ma’am, can you do me a favor real quick?

Nair: Yes.

Officer: OK, let me get this under control. What I need you to do is I need an ID from you, and I need an ID from you, OK? I understand that there’s a domestic here, someone hit someone.

Nair: Yes. I hit my daughter.

Officer: You hit your daughter.

Nair: Yes.

Officer: OK, a crime was committed. It’s domestic abuse. We came out here to investigate it. He refused to give his ID. Tried to give it to ... he got combative. That’s why, why he got put in this position, OK?

Nair: But why is he bleeding?

Officer: I’m bleeding. All right, that’s me. But I’ve got medical here and they’re going to come check him out. Make sure he’s OK. But right now, I need your ID.

Nair: Yes."

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I'm just trying to get the facts about what actually occurred

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No you're not. You were wrong about what happened for pages and pages despite being corrected over and over again. Either you don't read others posts directed at you, your reading comprehension can use some brushing up, or you just want to remain ignorant of the facts. Which is it?

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"Officer: We have medical on the way, ma’am.

Nair: This person, this, our youngest daughter, has been treating us like crap.

Officer: OK, ma’am, can you do me a favor real quick?

Nair: Yes.

Officer: OK, let me get this under control. What I need you to do is I need an ID from you, and I need an ID from you, OK? I understand that there’s a domestic here, someone hit someone.

Nair: Yes. I hit my daughter.

Officer: You hit your daughter.

Nair: Yes.

Officer: OK, a crime was committed. It’s domestic abuse. We came out here to investigate it. He refused to give his ID. Tried to give it to ... he got combative. That’s why, why he got put in this position, OK?

Nair: But why is he bleeding?

Officer: I’m bleeding. All right, that’s me. But I’ve got medical here and they’re going to come check him out. Make sure he’s OK. But right now, I need your ID.

Nair: Yes."

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That clearly proves that the police officers didn't know and weren't told that the domestic violence incident was between the mother and the daughter and that it was the mother who hit her daughter until after the incident with the father occurred.

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No you're not. You were wrong about what happened for pages and pages despite being corrected over and over again. Either you don't read others posts directed at you, your reading comprehension can use some brushing up, or you just want to remain ignorant of the facts. Which is it?

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bullshite.

Some of you jumped all over me because I said the police didn't know who the suspected abuser was before they arrived on the scene and said the police knew the father wasn't the suspect before they tried to question him and ask him to provide some identification.

Now the verbatim transcript proves I was correct and those who said I wasn't are wrong.

Geez, you guys should get your bullshite together before you start spreading it!

There is so much not known at this point.

There was at least one eyewitness who gave a statement to police.

There may be video from the movie theater which will help confirm or contradict what happened prior to the moment the phone video begins.

The autopsy will disclose the cause of death, as well as injuries to the man's body.

He had high blood pressure and sleep apnea, both of which could have been aggravated by either pepper spray or the takedown, or both. The fact that he was resuscitated in the ambulance, and then died at the medical facility after having a CT Scan , suggests the possibility he may have suffered, and succumbed to, a cardiac event.

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Obviously it's too much for your feeble little brain to understand but after the police arrived, if they did not know who was the person who caused the domestic violence then they would question everyone separately and determine what most likely occurred and who was the domestic abuser.

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It was a theater parking lot fool!

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What difference does that make, these officers should be commended for taking another murderer off the street.

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I'm sure there's people who feel that because this guy was emotional (who wouldn't be) over his wife and daughter and resisted showing ID, that he's thuggish and was a detriment to society.