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re: Man dead after refusing to show police ID

Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11478 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:40 pm to
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according to the police statement he stepped pay the game warden and took a "fighting stance"


I realize you say that in jest, but it really disturbs me in the manner that these goons conduct themselves.

Police use the word "combative" and think it absolves them of any responsibility for their actions.

Of course, being "combative" is at police discretion, and we know police are not the smartest of folks so I will make the (logical) assumption that most citizens are not being combative.
Posted by volhound
Member since Sep 2009
852 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:18 pm to
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Wrong


Please enlighten me with your absolute truth and knowledge on this topic please
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Please enlighten me with your absolute truth and knowledge on this topic please



Judging from your posts it would be a waste of time.
Posted by volhound
Member since Sep 2009
852 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:36 pm to
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Judging from your posts it would be a waste of time.


Okie dokie oh wise internet chat board grand puba. This case like many others will drag on for months, truths lies and all the in between will come out. Will the real facts and truth come out in the end? I would hope so, but like most things our gov't and judicial system touches it will be all sorts of fricked up by the end.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:39 pm to
I've become convinced that if a cop just shot someone walking down the street peacefully that some of the pigs and pig lovers around here would still find a way to defend it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:41 pm to
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Alahunter


And to you, please find the closest sewage treatment faculty and go drown in shite.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:42 pm to
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I've become convinced that if a cop just shot someone walking down the street peacefully that some of the pigs and pig lovers around here would still find a way to defend it.
He took a combative stance!

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293439 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

Alahunter


And to you, please find the closest sewage treatment faculty and go drown in shite.



I think he feels a sizable portion of the population deserve to get roughed up.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11478 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

I've become convinced that if a cop just shot someone walking down the street peacefully that some of the pigs and pig lovers around here would still find a way to defend it.


"Law enforcement" is like a fraternity. They have each others backs until something may come back on them, then they snitch like the pussies they are.

The fact that these thugs are here to "protect and serve" is laughable.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:54 pm to
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The fact that these thugs are here to "protect and serve" is laughable.
Well, considering that the Courts ruled that you have absolutely zero right to police protection and the police don't have to protect you if they don't want to.

quote:

Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is an oft-quoted[2] District of Columbia Court of Appeals case that held police do not have a duty to provide police services to individuals, even if a dispatcher promises help to be on the way, except when police develop a special duty to particular individuals.


It's hilarious that people still believe a cop's job is to protect and serve.

That phrase should be rewritten.

"Harass and Collect" sounds better.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 8:55 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44665 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:55 pm to
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This case like many others will drag on for months, truths lies and all the in between will come out. Will the real facts and truth come out in the end? I


Are you ok?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:01 pm to
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"Harass and Collect" sounds better.


Yeah, I called the cops last week, and while it worked out in the end, the pig fricking harassed the frick out of me and reminded me on why I never get the pigs involved. I'll just copy this from my post earlier this week:

quote:

I should have listened to you, wmr. Decided to bar hop to determine which places I liked. Went into Stir, and I can say safely that it is the single worst bar on planet Earth.

I walk in and get IDed by the bouncer. I'm not drunk at that point and the frickhead says it's a fake, because they've been seeing a bunch of Mississippi fake IDs. I tell the fat frick that I have 18 more proofs on me that I am who I say I am, including a corporate card, an Ole Miss alumni card, proofs of insurance, and a social security card. He asks to see them, so I hand him my wallet with all those proofs in them. The piece of shite then says that I stole it and is confiscating it as well. I tell him to go frick himself and anything he asks me about any of those forms of ID I can answer.

He then asks me my birthday and then my age, and I tell him I was born in late 1987 and was 26, but he says "Dude, you can't even keep your story straight. Let's do some basic math here. 2014 minus 1987 equals 27." I respond with "Yeah if I was born in February or before, you fricking dumbass." He then says "Dude, we're letting you off light now, but what you don't understand is we're about to call the cops and have you arrested for theft." My response, "No man, what you don't understand is I'm about to call the cops and have you arrested for stealing my wallet."

Anyway the cops come in, and I find out that the pigs in Fayetteville aren't much better than they are in Oxford. He agrees with the bouncers that there isn't conclusive proof in my wallet that I am who I say I am, despite having working credit cards and one of which being corporate. He then says if I don't produce it, I'm about to be arrested. The pig then has a revelation that can prove to them I am who I am: pull up my Facebook profile and that if my birthday is on there, that would be proof I wasn't lying. Pull it up, the cop lets me go, and the bouncers say that they'll buy me a drink. I reluctantly thank the cop for assisting the situation, but turn to the bouncers, give them the finger, and tell them to go frick themselves.



So yeah, these are the type of people I run into pretty consistently. I am serious when I say that I trust gangsters more than I trust the pigs, and would be friends with one of them before a pig.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135157 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:07 pm to
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an Ole Miss alumni card
meh, . . . . . what . . . . did . . . . you . . . . . expect?









Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11478 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

OMLandshark


This dude I went to WVU with has an eerily similar story. But yeah, police are far from credible and are never to be trusted.

They aren't smart, because if they were they wouldn't be police officers. It is disgusting and disgraceful how these "officers" conduct themselves when dealing with tax paying and law abiding citizens.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135157 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:20 pm to
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Please enlighten me with your absolute truth and knowledge on this topic please
Granted, no one here has "absolute truth and knowledge on this topic" . . . . yet.

There are a couple of facts we know:
(1) The police were not there because of Luis Rodriguez. He was innocent.
(2) Luis Rodriguez died as a result of the police being there. He was dead.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11478 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:22 pm to
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(1) The police were not there because of Luis Rodriguez. He was innocent.
(2) Luis Rodriguez died as a result of the police being there. He was dead.


I would like to add that Mr. Rodriguez was unarmed. Other than that, this is a great post.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:22 pm to
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Granted, no one here has "absolute truth and knowledge on this topic" . . . . yet.

There are a couple of facts we know:
(1) The police were not there because of Luis Rodriguez. He was innocent.
(2) Luis Rodriguez died as a result of the police being there. He was dead.


Excellent. I cannot understand how this is hard to understand.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

There are a couple of facts we know: (1) The police were not there because of Luis Rodriguez. He was innocent. (2) Luis Rodriguez died as a result of the police being there. He was dead.
But the police stated he took a combative stance.

A COMBATIVE STANCE!!
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71186 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:25 pm to
There are a couple of facts we know:
(1) The police were not there because of Luis Rodriguez. He was innocent.
(2) Luis Rodriguez died as a result of the police being there. He was dead.


Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:26 pm to
Brother, I want you to never forget, because this is what happens when there's a monopoly of force and violence.
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