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Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:15 pm to EA6B
Sometimes it may be better to let people run than endanger lives, whether the pursuit be by foot or car. Find them again another day, unless this person is a serial killer.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:23 pm to DanTiger
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I have stated numerous times that the more you pay the better the candidates will be but who wants to pay higher taxes? If you paid a 100K salary to cops you would have a great pool to draw from but somebody has to pay that salary. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Based on your defense of nearly every officer issue that comes before us here, why exactly do I need to pay higher taxes for a better class of officer? If I've learned anything form your posts, it's that almost none of them do a thing wrong...they nearly always follow procedure to the letter...that the real issues tend to be with citizens and not the officers in these cases, etc.
Hell...if all that's true, it seems as though we're getting a bargain! other than my desire to see officers make more money, why do I need to pay more if they're as awesome as you suggest in these threads?
Speaking of cake and eating it too...it works that way with arguments as well.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:27 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Several officers make over 100K on the lcoal force and in Anchorage. You'll find the same thing in many West Coast cities.
Avg pay is in the 80's, that isn't underpaid.
Avg pay is in the 80's, that isn't underpaid.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Why is Alaska so selective with their officers? I think it's good that they are, just seems to stray from the norm.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:37 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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assume
This seems to be the deciding factor on most of the opinions on here. The police released their official statement today, LINK
Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:38 pm to Sevendust912
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Why is Alaska so selective with their officers? I think it's good that they are, just seems to stray from the norm.
I would say that being in Alaska brings a higher pay scale along with the wide range of patrol areas? I can't say I know a whole lot of people who just up and move to Alaska without a true wanting to be there
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:12 pm to Sevendust912
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Why is Alaska so selective with their officers? I think it's good that they are, just seems to stray from the norm.
Huge pool of applicants, they get a lot of interest from the lower 48. Juneau is filling 6 new positions now, I'll bet they bring in over 200 to test for the position. High pay, good standard of living in a great community.
On a somewhat related note, one of the old JPD Lts. hit the bottle a couple years ago, lost his job and went bonkers, firing around 100 shots at his former coworkers who came to investigate a domestic violence complaint. They took him without a shot. Wonder what would have happened to a regular citizen?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:18 pm to volhound
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According to the report, police were called to the theater at about 8 p.m. on Feb. 15 on a separate matter, but were alerted to an argument between members of the Rodriguez family by a witness. Department of Wildlife Officer Chad Strang, who police said was unsure of the details of the alleged assault, made contact with Rodriguez, investigators said.
whole lotta fail right there....
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Strang said Luis eventually told him that his wife, Nair Rodriguez, had struck their teenage daughter.
(So the pigs knew he wasnt involved)
According to police, Strang asked Luis Rodriguez for his identification, which Rodriguez refused to give him. Investigators said Luis Rodriguez tried to step around Strang, at which time Officer Ryan Minard, Officer Joseph Bradley and Sgt. Brian Clarkston approached to assist Strang. According to officers, after repeated requests, Luis Rodriguez continued to refuse to give police his identification
(As is his right)
and took on a "fighting stance."
(More cop bullshite cya)
According to the report, Minard then attempted to place Luis Rodriguez into investigative detention until the incident was further investigated.
(Why were they going to detain someone who wasnt involved in the dispute?)
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:25 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Based on your defense of nearly every officer issue that comes before us here, why exactly do I need to pay higher taxes for a better class of officer? If I've learned anything form your posts, it's that almost none of them do a thing wrong...they nearly always follow procedure to the letter...that the real issues tend to be with citizens and not the officers in these cases, etc.
I believe you need to review my previous posts.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:38 pm to CptBengal
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Department of Wildlife Officer Chad Strang, who police said was unsure of the details of the alleged assault, made contact with Rodriguez, investigators said.
WTF is a game warden doing investigating a domestic violence case.
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According to police, Strang asked Luis Rodriguez for his identification, which Rodriguez refused to give him. Investigators said Luis Rodriguez tried to step around Strang
So the truth is starting to come out.
At this point I expect some of the people that have been defending the police to admit that the cops fricked this up from the beginning.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:42 pm to DanTiger
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Officers do stick up for one another when their buddy commits a crime
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:44 pm to DanTiger
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I believe officers haave a much harder time in most courtrooms thn the average citizen does.
If only.
They should have a harder time. They are the ones with the power, authority and guns. When they commit crimes in their line of work, they should face much harder times in the courtroom. But they do not. How many ever see the courtroom?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:45 pm to novabill
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They should have a harder time. They are the ones with the power, authority and guns. When they commit crimes in their line of work, they should face much harder times in the courtroom. But they do not. How many ever see the courtroom?
probably most, but as witnesses.
But that aside, why don't you go figure this out?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:46 pm to DawgfaninCa
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you cooperate with the police
Worst advice ever.
Do not EVER talk to the cops.
Everything you say can be used against you, BUT cannot be used to help you.
Cops are not your friends. Their job is to get convictions. While some care, many do not. Get the conviction and pad the resume.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:46 pm to bencoleman
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At this point I expect some of the people that have been defending the police to admit that the cops fricked this up from the beginning.
Based on what? Should they have not responded when a a Woman hit another woman?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:47 pm to bencoleman
In Bama Game Wardens have as much arrest and detain powers as State Troopers, if not more. They're still LE.
The police versions side is starting to come out, to which you're calling truth.
And then selecting one sentence out of it to argue your side. I would still prefer to see what the autopsy shows. I still need more info. Did the GW see the incident, is that why he was involved? As I stated earlier in the thread, police don't always know what's happened when they arrive to a scene. According to the "truth", the deceased became combative and positioned himself to fight LEO's. It also stated he wasn't dead and was stabilized after leaving the scene. Was the medical care sufficient? Could they have done something to have dropped the ball that led to his death? Still a lot of unanswered questions, imo.
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So the truth is starting to come out
The police versions side is starting to come out, to which you're calling truth.
And then selecting one sentence out of it to argue your side. I would still prefer to see what the autopsy shows. I still need more info. Did the GW see the incident, is that why he was involved? As I stated earlier in the thread, police don't always know what's happened when they arrive to a scene. According to the "truth", the deceased became combative and positioned himself to fight LEO's. It also stated he wasn't dead and was stabilized after leaving the scene. Was the medical care sufficient? Could they have done something to have dropped the ball that led to his death? Still a lot of unanswered questions, imo.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:48 pm to DawgfaninCa
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It's life. Grow up.
You are an idiot.
Of course we have to do what we have to do.
The conversation is centered around the behavior of cops that misbehave and cause us these problems.
If more cops were treated the same as we are by the same laws, more would go to prison and you would see the blue gang begin to clean up their act.
As it is, there is no reason to behave better.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:48 pm to novabill
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Do not EVER talk to the cops.
I agree with this, Lawyer up as soon as possible, but don't act like a fricking wild animal either.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:52 pm to Alahunter
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the "truth", the deceased became combative and positioned himself to fight LEO's. It also stated he wasn't dead and was stabilized after leaving the scene
Dude he was fricking dead. DEAD do you hear me.
Again, Why was the GW investigating a DV case?
When he saw that the man wasn't involved why was he still confronting the man.
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