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re: Major Dam Just Blown Up In Ukraine

Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:22 am to
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:22 am to
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The ignorance is astounding.


Uh oh... someone left the door open in the retarded Ukraine thread on the OT
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:24 am to
Political ads are becoming more expensive, and an election is coming soon.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:30 am to
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Besides downstream flooding, what are the other implications?
The Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant is under Russian control, but it was badly damaged in the fighting, and has basically been offline for a year.

Last November there was a similar, but unsuccessful, attempt to destroy the dam. An explosion badly damaged it, and made flow regulation difficult. Both sides blamed the other.

In answer to the question, blowing the dam will drain the Dnipro Reservoir. The Dnipro Reservoir provides water to Crimea and the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant. Both are under Russian control.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 6:33 am
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:32 am to
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Uh oh... someone left the door open in the retarded Ukraine thread on the OT

Put aside all your retarded assumptions. Do you really think one poor country, i.e. Russia, can bleed America and its Nato partners dry?

Our lives are so unaffected by this that we spend our days talking about shitty beer.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:34 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44190 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:36 am to
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Russians are bleeding America dry…


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The ignorance is astounding.


Acknowledging that you have an issue is the first step. Good for you!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44190 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:37 am to
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Our lives are so unaffected by this that we spend our days talking about shitty beer.


The calm before the slaughter…

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44190 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:40 am to
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Blowing up the Kakhovka Dam is an ecological and economic catastrophe as it not only floods towns and cities south of the dam, including Kherson, but threatens the drinking water for hundreds of thousands, agricultural production, and the safety of Europe's largest nuclear plant.


So a first rate distraction.

This truly sucks for the Ukrainian people.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:40 am to
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along with hundreds of thousands potential civilian deaths


No. Already stated as no threat to civilians by Ukrainian government official in a statement. Plenty of time to move anyone in danger as they monitor rises in water levels.



Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44190 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:42 am to
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Whats next, cut off some appendages and throw them at the Russians.


It’s June.

Don’t give them any ideas.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37188 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:44 am to
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Besides downstream flooding, what are the other implications?

A couple of major cities are downstream, as is a large nuclear power station and lots of farmland. It’s also draining a reservoir that supplies drinking water for a big area.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:46 am to
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Major escalation in the war.


Why would this be considered a "major escalation"? Considering entire cities has been leveled, rail road tracks, highways, and at one point they were bombing close to a nuclear plant. Seems par for the course during war.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115241 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:46 am to
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In answer to the question, blowing the dam will drain the Dnipro Reservoir. The Dnipro Reservoir provides water to Crimea and the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant. Both are under Russian control


Russia blowing this dam makes as much sense as them blowing up Nord Stream.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:46 am to
And I still hope Putin wins so he can rebuild the craphole...
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
2433 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:48 am to
The U.S. will rebuild it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:48 am to
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Russia had to arm and feed its forces via three crossings: the Antonovsky Bridge, the Antonovsky railway bridge and the Nova Kakhovka dam, part of a hydroelectric facility with a road running on top of it.

The two bridges were targeted with U.S.-supplied M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems — or HIMARS launchers, which have a range of 50 miles — and were quickly rendered impassable.

“There were moments when we turned off their supply lines completely, and they still managed to build crossings,” Kovalchuk said. “They managed to replenish ammunition. … It was very difficult.”

Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages.

The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but the step remained a last resort. He held off.
Just weeks before the HIMARS attacks, Ukraine leaked a story to the Western press that Russia planned to blow the dam. Afterwards they and much of western media blamed Russia for attempting to blow the dam. Then as the damage altered ability to control water levels, they blamed Russia for trying to drown Ukrainians. The western press parroted the story.

Seems this is more of the same.

Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:50 am to
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Why would this be considered a "major escalation"?


Blowing up a dam is considered a direct attack on the civilian population.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138693 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:51 am to
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as is a large nuclear power station
The Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant is upstream and under Russian control. It is dependent on the dam and reservoir for its water supply ... as is Crimea.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 6:57 am
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
8062 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:59 am to
Russia blow this up just like they blew up their pipeline?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:19 am to
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It's also a breach of Geneva Convention, but the west won't give a shite and will blame it on Russia.



The British blew up dams in Germany in WWII.

I guess that was different.... lolzzz
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