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re: MAGA wants the ACA to fail if the Rs vote No
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:04 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:04 pm to Covingtontiger77
Let obamacare rot to the fricking ground.
That is the only way these idiots will fix it.
That is the only way these idiots will fix it.
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:05 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Why can't Trump just repeal the Obama executive orders/regulations from the past six years?
The ACA is a law, not an EO. Do you know the difference?
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Consumers would be able to buy actual insurance at an affordable rate.
Most already can - the uninsured rate is the lowest it's ever been in this country due to the ACA.
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Basically stop the death spiral.
There is no death spiral. You've been lied to for 7 years, and lapped it up like a fool.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:15 pm to BamaAtl
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The ACA is a law, not an EO. Do you know the difference?
Obama issued a lot of regulations that are not part of the statute. One of us doesn't know the difference, but I'm not it.
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Most already can - the uninsured rate is the lowest it's ever been in this country due to the ACA.
The rate of people going without care due to cost is the highest it's been in years. So much for affordable. And low premium high deductible plans are basically illegal now.
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There is no death spiral. You've been lied to for 7 years, and lapped it up like a fool.
Quit getting your news from MSNBC.
I've personally watched rates skyrocket. Without the ACA I would still have access to a traditional insurance plan at a low premium. Obviously it would have gone up since 2014, but I would still have the legal right to buy it. The available plans today have high premiums, high deductibles, and narrow networks.
But I'll believe your propaganda over my lying eyes.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:17 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Obama issued a lot of regulations that are not part of the statute.
And if Trump were to change them midstream (if he even knows what they are), they'd all be challenged in court. Isn't as easy as a stroke of a pen when lives are at stake.
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I've personally watched rates skyrocket.
Good thing the plural of anecdote still isn't data.
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Obviously it would have gone up since 2014
More than ACA rates have gone up, comparatively. Since the increase in premium is now the slowest it's been in a long while.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:19 pm to Covingtontiger77
Repeal! Let the free loving Dems replace this toxic mess. They invented it anyway.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:20 pm to RCDfan1950
Is there a more vile creature than the Obamabot to ever grace this land we call "the home of the free"?
I don't like him NOT because he is a Democrat, I actually can't stand Republicans more because they have ZERO BACK BONE, but rather being he is anti-american with everything he has ever done.
How any democrat could like this creaton is beyond the scope of conversation here on this board.
Don't get me wrong SJW's I have the same disdain and disgust towards Bushs, Clintons, Kissingers, Nixons, Carter, etc.. Ya'll are all apart of the same cabal the last 40 years or so.
Obama is like the power rangers of villains though. He has all these creatons abilites and much more. The super politician; He had the worse of all these (best for the elite) combined into one creature I had never seen before in politics.
I don't like him NOT because he is a Democrat, I actually can't stand Republicans more because they have ZERO BACK BONE, but rather being he is anti-american with everything he has ever done.
How any democrat could like this creaton is beyond the scope of conversation here on this board.
Don't get me wrong SJW's I have the same disdain and disgust towards Bushs, Clintons, Kissingers, Nixons, Carter, etc.. Ya'll are all apart of the same cabal the last 40 years or so.
Obama is like the power rangers of villains though. He has all these creatons abilites and much more. The super politician; He had the worse of all these (best for the elite) combined into one creature I had never seen before in politics.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:20 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Frick it...you Dems created this mess time for it to implode on you as your creation.
Exactly my point.
Thanks for proving it.
Not a dem at all.
Registered republican since 18.
I believe in small, limited gov't and states rights.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:21 pm to ForeLSU
you funny
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:22 pm to Covingtontiger77
Trump has wanted it to fail from day one and honestly, Obama care should have been the last agenda taken on, not the first
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:24 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Thus, let the ACA implode and have it still be the albatross around the Dems neck.
Hooray, your orange hero is a Russian agent and now you're just openly rooting for economic turmoil! So much winning, am I right?!
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:27 pm to skiptumahloo
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Hooray, your orange hero is a Russian agent and now you're just openly rooting for economic turmoil! So much winning, am I right?
Got the SCOTUS....don't care.
We survived 8 years under Obama. Apart from nuclear holocaust everything will be fine sweetheart.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:27 pm to ChexMix
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Trump has wanted it to fail from day one
Straight from the playbook!!!
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:30 pm to Covingtontiger77
Make them own it...
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:52 pm to BamaAtl
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Good thing the plural of anecdote still isn't data.
The definition of anecdote is not "a fact or data point that inconveniently goes against one's preferred narrative".
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Since the increase in premium is now the slowest it's been in a long while.
This talking point has been repeatedly debunked. Enough times that you're being willfully dishonest when you make that claim.
It would be understandable if you just got all your information from leftist echo chambers, but you've been corrected several times on this board.
His much Big Insurance stock do you own, anyway? Because patients and providers aren't seeing any benefits.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:01 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:05 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:07 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:11 pm to ForeLSU
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Trump has failed miserably on a significant campaign promise...
well, if you ask them, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault... this time it's Ryan's fault....
i honestly think Trump could shite on himself and his supporters would blame it on the chef that cooked the food...
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:12 pm to Bestbank Tiger
https://news.ehealthinsurance.com/news/average-individual-health-insurance-premiums-increased-99-since-2013-the-year-before-obamacare-family-premiums-increased-140-according-to-ehealth-com-shopping-data
Needle barely moved from 2008-10, and costs went up slightly through 2013. Went up bigly after that.
Needle barely moved from 2008-10, and costs went up slightly through 2013. Went up bigly after that.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:03 pm to ChexMix
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Obama care should have been the last agenda taken on, not the first
yeah, but 4d chess, right?
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