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re: MAGA is dead, stick a fork in it. Has been successfully co-opted

Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:13 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:13 am to
Who is your ideal candidate? AOC or Newsome?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2919 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:17 am to
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I can subscribe to people behind the scenes with lots of power. I can subscribe to theories...if they pass simple logic. Trump would have never given up his life he had before to just follow orders. Your theory is illogical.


I thoroughly understand your position and perspective.

Is it THE "reality"? Logic or Theory?:

IS Trump really calling all the shots? Or making any of the big decisions independently of The Overlords? Tangential possibility: What does it mean about his actual "authority" if he, Potato, the Kenyan, Dubya, Bubba were the "President" of a "US corporation"?) Don't corporations have a "Board of Directors"?

This world's pyramid of power and control, and their agenda supersedes all. (Look into UN Agenda 2030)

They NEVER yield power and leave control to mere chance or "nationalistic tendency". Or to any illusion we've all had that nations, states, parties and leaders are independent of an international un-elected cartel.

"Il-logical paranoia"? Or something to consider?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11084 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:21 am to
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Who is your ideal candidate? AOC or Newsome?


Trump spends at the same rate as Obama and Biden. He’s always been a NYC Democrat that parades around as a right leaning Populist. There’s no difference between your lord and savior Trump and the Liberals you try to mock on here. Between Trumps two terms he’s going to add 17 to 18 Trillion to National debt. That doesn’t sound very conservative to me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297576 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:23 am to
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Who is your ideal candidate? AOC or Newsome?


I dont vote for New York Democrats (AOC and Trump) or California Democrats (Newsome)

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:28 am to
Nothing but cliché Trump hate. Pretty much word for word, same as it ever was. Incessant Trump hate is far more cliché than that of Trump “worship.” It’s the proverbial broken record. Very difficult to take seriously.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:28 am to
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Thats all anyone needs to know about you. A progressive, hates conservatism.


Sure
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:30 am to
What about California “Democrats?” Such as Ronald Reagan? Same criticism of him, or does this criticism “rule” apply only to Trump?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27594 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:30 am to
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There is nothing America First anymore about this administration or MAGA.

Just buy some more Trump Coin and stop complaining
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38063 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:30 am to
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S Trump really calling all the shots? Or making any of the big decisions independently of The Overlords? Tangential possibility: What does it mean about his actual "authority" if he, Potato, the Kenyan, Dubya, Bubba were the "President" of a "US corporation"?) Don't corporations have a "Board of Directors"?

I wouldn't even call him the "President" of a "US corporation." I'd call him the corporations chief salesman, at best.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297576 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:32 am to
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Such as Ronald Reagan?


Back then, California wasnt nearly as bat shite crazy.

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:32 am to
Lol you seem to have stellar judgement, cloaked in anger and frustration.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38063 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:33 am to
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Nothing but cliché Trump hate. Pretty much word for word, same as it ever was. Incessant Trump hate is far more cliché than that of Trump “worship.”


Yeah, I've heard it so rarely, I don't even know what TDS or OMB stands for.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2919 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:33 am to
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There’s a tendency to gloss over (if not outright ignore) the years that led up to 2016.

1996 - Bob Dole
2000 - W Bush
2004 - W Bush
2008 - John McCain
2012 - Mitt Romney
2016 - Was shaping up to be yet another Bush (Jeb!)

The GOP wasn’t exactly tearing it up and offering a “true conservative” vision and path to excite and energize the base in all the years prior to Trump coming down the escalator.



Exactly. A bunch of bums.

The overlord class scripted out the GOP running crash-dummies designed NOT to "excite" or inspire Republican voters. That list (Dole, Stain, Romney, W were designed LOSERS, sandbagging victories. Dubya Bush was also a zero-charisma loser -- but the GOP had a plan. "We'll polish that turd's image so Republicans can win because the Middle East MIC war machine must be fed. God thing war is on brand for the GOP, not the Dems."

quote:

If the GOP base had been happy and pleased with the direction of the country under Republican leadership, there’d have never been a practical chance or an opening for a Donald Trump.


Spot on again. Suddenly the GOP was energized for a change by running former Dem and WWE TV character Trump -- along with his "outsider" narrative. He was the perfect Manchurian candidate for President. The GOP (and global overlords) had found their man to usher in the last phase of what would be their "RESET".
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24816 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:34 am to
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your lord and savior Trump


shite like this is why no one takes you seriously.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2919 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:35 am to
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I wouldn't even call him the "President" of a "US corporation." I'd call him the corporations chief salesman, at best.


Why not both? Because he IS both. (The US is a Corporation. As of 1871. Look it up.)
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
908 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:39 am to
Even with DOGE ripping up the government, Trump will have spent more than last year.

Elon didn't do shite and that's why he said he wouldn't do it again.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2919 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:39 am to
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What about California “Democrats?” Such as Ronald Reagan? Same criticism of him, or does this criticism “rule” apply only to Trump?


Reagan knew how to be a statesman. And forcefully also forcefully explained, "I didn't leave the Democrat Party; The Democrat Party left me." And he always clarified his political-conservative positions.

Trump has NEVER articulated his political "republican" or "conservative"philosophy or ideology. Because he actually doesn't have one.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38063 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:40 am to
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Lol you seem to have stellar judgement, cloaked in anger and frustration.
I don't know which is more angering and frustrating - Deep State's juvenile propaganda, or the sheople who keep falling for it.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2919 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:40 am to
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Hence, "you got him now"


I forgot that one.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:43 am to
Reagan signed a bill into law as governor of California that actually loosened restrictions on abortion. He would go on to reflect that he ultimately regretted the decision. Thus, a notable example of the legitimacy of evolution of one’s political philosophies, positions and viewpoints. Would I hold that prior position and resulting decision against Reagan? Not at all. I understand and respect the concept of evolving viewpoints. So why wouldn’t I apply the same rationale to Donald Trump?
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