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re: Madeline Albright: Fascism currently poses its most serious threat since the end of WW2

Posted on 4/8/18 at 6:24 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 6:24 am to
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the once bright promise of the Arab Spring


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 6:31 am to
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Fascism currently poses its most serious threat since the end of WW2
Correct.
Look no further than the " Twitter CEO there’s no “bipartisan way forward” calls for conservative to be driven out" thread, along with support it received on this board.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31495 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 6:34 am to
What a despicable person.

I can't even bring myself to comment beyond that right now.

Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 7:30 am to
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Mr. Trump has steadily diminished America’s positive clout in global councils

Words of a true globalist.



This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 7:51 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34901 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 8:41 am to
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Albright's policies look and sound more like fascism than Trump


Yep. Whatever they accuse their Opposition of...it's what they are guilty of. Think 'Russian collusion' and their "insurance policy" to oust Trump/Trump Nation from power.

Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13495 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 9:07 am to
It pains me deeply to agree with Madeline Albright on anything.

But she’s right, and here are the Fascist that are most threatening:

But, I feel a little better, because I don’t think she had these Frickers she had in mind.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 9:18 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 9:28 am to
Fascism has been and always will be a LEFT WING philosophy no matter how much the left refuses to acknowledge it.

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The father of fascism is a man named Giovanni Gentile. 

Born in 1875, Gentile was one of the world’s most influential philosophers in the first half of the 20th century. Inspired by his mentor Karl Marx, Gentile believed that the state should resemble a family. This remains a common leftist theme. During the 1984 convention of the Democratic Party, the governor of New York, Mario Cuomo, likened America to “an extended family where, through the government, people all take care of each other.” Thirty years later, the slogan of the 2012 Democratic Party convention was, “The government is the only thing we all belong to.” 

Gentile considered fascism to be the most workable form of socialism. “Fascism mobilizes people by appealing to their national identity as well as their class,” explains D’Souza. “Fascists are socialists with a national identity.” 

Gentile also believed all private action should be oriented to serve society, with no distinction between private interest and public interest. He considered the state to be the administrative arm of society, so society and all its members were to submit to the state in everything.  

Italian fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini, simply paraphrased Gentile when he wrote in his Dottrina del Fascismo, one of the doctrinal statements of early fascism, “All is in the state and nothing human exists or has value outside the state.” 

Just like Gentile, Democratic progressives champion a centralized state, which explains the recent expansion of state control in the private sectors of healthcare, banking, education and energy. “Leftists can’t acknowledge their man, Gentile, because that would undermine their attempt to bind conservatism to fascism,” 


Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50278 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 9:57 am to
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In the USA Trump has the type of blind sheep followers who would gladly be bullies


There's that projection again.
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:28 pm to
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I find it a bit disingenuous of the New York Times that they allow her to write an opinion piece while not making the readers aware of the fact that she has a partisan book coming out about this next week.
Both the on-line and hardcopy versions have this paragraph:

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Madeleine Albright, the author of “Fascism: A Warning,” served as United States secretary of state from 1997 to 2001.


It's at the bottom of the on-line version and on this first part of the hardcopy.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:38 pm to
Fascism and nationalism aren't synonyms. No one claims that. However, Nationalism has been a key component of every example of fascism the world has known.
Weak people like yourself cling to collectives because they lack the strength to be individuals. Easier to control such people.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48298 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Weak people like yourself cling to collectives because they lack the strength to be individual. Easier to control such people.


Says the globalist....

You are making a good point. It's the opposite of the one you wanted to, though.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:41 pm to
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Weak people like yourself cling to collectives because they lack the strength to be individuals.


Wait a second, aren't you a progressive? Progressive ideology is nothing but a fight against individuality.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:04 pm to
I'm a center-left liberal who believes you can be patriotic without falling into nationalism. Military hero worship starting around 9 11 has made having any earnest conversation on military spending or policy impossible. Nativism is dangerous because of both who it tends to appeal to and how it can be used to turn people against each other.

Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:10 pm to
Bond,
You are a perfect example of someone who clings to his political party. Every word that comes out of your mouth can basically be equated to "I hate democrats".

You are no beacon of individualism...quite the contrary.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112613 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:14 pm to
What makes you proud of our country?
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:19 pm to
It starts local: proud to be from NOLA...I love LA culture. On the national scale I believe in the ideal of America even while acknowledging that we have rarely if ever lived up to it. American leadership in science and certain arts is something I take extraordinary pride in. Particularly in how our technology innovations transformed the world. I am proud to be part of that tradition.
I continue to be proud of our military achievements but will never be so foolish as to equate service with heroism as synonyms.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Wait a second, aren't you a progressive? Progressive ideology is nothing but a fight against individuality.


Of course it is.The left detest individualism and is nothing more than group think built on lies,political correctness and censorship.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4503 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:39 pm to
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It's at the bottom of the on-line version and on this first part of the hardcopy.


I saw that & am going to double down. The NYT did not say that her newest, partisan book is coming out this week. She wrote the piece & it's strategically phrased as to how it comes across.

In a recent Albright interview promoting her book, her comments were not geared toward the problems w/ fascism, they were designed to continue the misleading of the populace by tying fascism exclusively to anti-Democrat Party factions.

She calls Trump "the most anti-democratic leader" she knows. But that's a lie. It's already been shown that Clinton & the DNC rigged their primary.

Then read what she says about Trump portraying the US as a perpetual victim. Then be objective and make the correlation. The Democrat Party uses the same tactics in how they deal w/ the people of the US. However, her assessment on Trump is at least debateable. It can't be debated in how the Democrat Party repeatedly calls their constituents "victims."

I could go on, but there's no point. I have to go cut the grass. But be objective & note the holes, hypocrisy, &/or double standards in her arguments from her recent NPR interview.

Albright is a partisan hack first. It's a shame that almost everyone else is too.

NPR Interview
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71045 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 4:03 pm to
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The Nazi variant also included close relationships between government and big corporations.



Goldman Sachs? Citigroup? Wellpoint?

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GE


Whose CEO was on a previous President's economic council.

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The Nazi variant also believed in the BIG LIE. Telling untruths so wild that people would have a hard time believing a person would say such a thing unless it actually was true.


If you like your plan...
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 4:18 pm to
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To guard against a recurrence, the survivors of war and the Holocaust joined forces to create the United Nations, forge global financial institutions and — through the Universal Declaration of Human Rights — strengthen the rule of law. 


Lol...kiss my arse, you globalist bitch. The U.N. and global financial institutions were set up by the international bankers to gain control of the world governments and finances. Sounds like you are a commie/socialist/fascist or whatever other ism you want to make up.
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