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Low-Level manager at my employer asks everyone, "What's your vaccination status?"

Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45767 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:00 pm
There are trade show events coming up. Some of the venues are indicating that they are going to require a vaccination card or the results of a PCR test within 72 hours of attending in order to enter the facilities. So I understand why the company would want that information. Sending people to an event is expensive only to have them turned away. Nevertheless, I write back (and copy my HR director):

quote:

Hi (Mr. Low-Level Manager),

Vaccination status is medical information that should be addressed directly between an employee and HR, so that confidential information is kept separated from personnel files and not shared indiscriminately. I understand why you need to know for business planning, but the EEOC, in its publication on the rules and regulations around this, state in Section K, item K.4:

"The ADA requires an employer to maintain the confidentiality of employee medical information, such as documentation or other confirmation of COVID-19 vaccination. This ADA confidentiality requirement applies regardless of where the employee gets the vaccination. Although the EEO laws themselves do not prevent employers from requiring employees to bring in documentation or other confirmation of vaccination, this information, like all medical information, must be kept confidential and stored separately from the employee’s personnel files under the ADA."

Here is the link: https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-should-know-about-covid-19-and-ada-rehabilitation-act-and-other-eeo-laws

In my opinion, you should not be receiving this information yourself from employees in this manner. It seems like HR should be handling this, managing the data, and just confirming to you and other management that someone can or cannot attend an event under the conditions you described without directly revealing personal medical information.

Happy to discuss, but I think this needs to be handled by HR in a manner that insures confidentiality to employees.

HB
So, I pushed back on this, even though I'm vaccinated. I don't mind sharing that information with HR, but I believe, in this situation, that this low-level manager is well-meaning, but acting outside his lane.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
3921 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

I don't mind sharing that information with HR


Why? None of their business.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84118 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:03 pm to
I would have probably gone straight to HR with your concerns instead of even replying, but I agree with you otherwise.

My work asked for my vaccination status, even thought it was set up through work I declined to answer as I didn't think the department head asking had any need to know. No one has fired me.... yet.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80216 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:05 pm to
Here's a better answer:

This information is considered PHI. By policy, that information must be protected by confidentiality standards. Since we currently do not have a digital encryption capability in our e-mail system, sending this information over e-mail puts it at risk. "Blacking out PII" is not good enough in this case. Please come see me in person.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66443 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:05 pm to
Though I agree with you, you sound like a pain in the arse to work with.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:05 pm to
Interested in seeing what response(s) you get from him or HR
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34102 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:07 pm to
That deserves a big, hardy piss off
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80257 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:07 pm to
Maybe one of the silver linings in this is that HR people will be on the receiving end of headaches from fed-up employees. The tables have turned in that regard.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9167 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:09 pm to
Your HR department may have written that email for him
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:09 pm to
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HubbaBubba
Well done.
Posted by LaylaClapton
Member since Aug 2021
212 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Though I agree with you, you sound like a pain in the arse to work with.


is that you Harvey Weinstein?
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45767 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Though I agree with you, you sound like a pain in the arse to work with.
What on earth would lead you to that conclusion? That I'm not simple-minded and don't just roll-over and follow directions?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56520 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:19 pm to
Good email.

Just a fyi,

quote:

Happy to discuss, but I think this needs to be handled by HR in a manner that ensures confidentiality to employees.

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:21 pm to
If you don't ask my Vax status, I won't ask if your re-assignment surgery was a success...
Posted by The Shed
Member since Mar 2019
816 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:24 pm to
Hate to break it to you guys but a private employer can require you be vaccinated. Unfortunately, alot of you are going to find this out the hard way.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42604 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

I won't ask if your re-assignment surgery was a success...



or ask about their latest colonoscopy results.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84118 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Hate to break it to you guys but a private employer can require you be vaccinated. Unfortunately, alot of you are going to find this out the hard way.



What a weird thread for this flex.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

GeorgeTheGreek


quote:

Though I agree with you, you sound like a pain in the arse to work with.


Our response to you.

quote:

Though I agree with you, you are a pain in the arse to share this board with.


Thanks and have a blessed day.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6081 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:30 pm to
nunya
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14899 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:31 pm to
Great email,

Low level managers need to be put in their place over and over
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