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re: Louisiana Polling Data (PPP)

Posted on 2/18/14 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 1:53 pm to
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He's seen as an empty suit who had so much promise, but instead focused too much on his resume and not enough on actually trying to help his state.



Spot on.

Then you have his complete hypocritical side. For example, campaigning against the Louisiana good ole boy network, then endorsing EWE's former right hand guy, John Alario, as Senate President.

Also, instance like the repeal of Stelly income tax increase. Fought it behind the scenes in committee, then when it finnaly happened, ran radio ads declaring that HE gave that tax break to LA citizens.

The author of the bill was quoted on record stating Jindal Administration never lifted a finger to help the repeal bill and in fact tried to kill it on a couple attempts.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:02 pm to
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-David Vitter will start the 2015 race for Governor as a pretty strong early favorite. He has a 51/33 approval spread, some of the best numbers we've seen for him during his time in the Senate. Vitter leads in hypothetical match ups with Democrats Mitch Landrieu (50/37) and John Bel Edwards (51/30), and would also have the upper hand against fellow Republican Jay Dardenne (41/29) if two candidates from their party made it through to the runoff.


Do you know if the question re Vitter v. Dardenne was only posed to the Republican primary voters in the sample or did everyone get asked that question?

Wait, did they really ask the question this way?

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Q10 If the candidates for Governor in 2015 were Republican Jay Dardenne and Democrat David Vitter, who would you vote for?


I get the feeling that if it ends up being Vitter and Dardenne in a runoff, Dardenne wins.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21581 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:08 pm to
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I get the feeling that if it ends up being Vitter and Dardenne in a runoff, Dardenne wins


You would be correct. Many of the anti-oil & gas trial lawyer segment believe Dardenne to be the only thing standing between Vitter and the Guv's mansion. Many of them have been dumping money into Dardenne's campaign rather than an actual Democrat.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:09 pm to
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I get the feeling that if it ends up being Vitter and Dardenne in a runoff, Dardenne wins.

I agree. The problem for Dardenne is that it looks very likely that he'll be squeezed out from both the right and the left. I hate it because he's my choice.
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Wait, did they really ask the question this way?

I'm pretty sure that's a typo.
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Do you know if the question re Vitter v. Dardenne was only posed to the Republican primary voters in the sample or did everyone get asked that question?
There won't be a Republican primary. Everyone against each other with the top two vote getters, regardless of party, being in a runoff.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:11 pm to
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There won't be a Republican primary.


I get that. Just wondering if that particular question was posed only to the "Republican primary voters" sampled in the poll. PPP might do that as part of their methodology but I'm not sure. Can't tell from the detailed release.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:13 pm to
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I get that. Just wondering if that particular question was posed only to the "Republican primary voters" sampled in the poll. PPP might do that as part of their methodology but I'm not sure. Can't tell from the detailed release.

Gotcha. I'm not sure either.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:13 pm to
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I agree. The problem for Dardenne is that it looks very likely that he'll be squeezed out from both the right and the left. I hate it because he's my choice.


Edwards hasn't exactly been winning people over on the left.

I'd even consider Dardenne (if that tells you anything )
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:15 pm to
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Edwards hasn't exactly been winning people over on the left.

The Democrats would be crazy to put anyone else up. JBE is easily among the best of a very, very thin Democrat bench in Louisiana.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21581 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:19 pm to
What?? You don't think they should run Sam Jones, Barbara Norton or Stephen Ortego? No KPC??
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:21 pm to
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The Democrats would be crazy to put anyone else up. JBE is easily among the best of a very, very thin Democrat bench in Louisiana.


His dumb arse wants to double down on mandatory minimums though. He's tried to wiggle out of this position by saying he wouldn't include mary jane but I'm pretty sure his proposal included all Sched 1 drugs.

Telling you, if Dardenne can stake out some moderate positions relative to Vitter, he will get some looks.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:27 pm to
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Telling you, if Dardenne can stake out some moderate positions relative to Vitter, he will get some looks.

He'll get some looks from some white Democrats but he'll lose more from the right than he'll gain from the left. He's in a very, very difficult spot.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:27 pm to
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Do you know if the question re Vitter v. Dardenne was only posed to the Republican primary voters in the sample or did everyone get asked that question?




Overall: Vitter 41, Dardenne 29

Republicans Only: Vitter 63, Dardenne 21

Democrats Only: Dardenne 37, Vitter 24

Independent/Other Only: Vitter 34, Dardenne 27

(eta: found on page 17 of the 36-page poll results)

This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:28 pm to
Thanks
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67268 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 2:33 pm to
I'm really split between the two. I don't know enough about Dardenne's positions to make an informed choice. Based on character and record (that I know of), Dardenne looks like the answer.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
8004 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 3:08 pm to
Darrdene is not beating vitter... With that said the more interesting race will be who replaces Vitter in the Senate?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 3:11 pm to
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With that said the more interesting race will be who replaces Vitter in the Senate?


Has he said he is not seeking reelection in the Senate?

I haven't really been paying attention
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67268 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 3:11 pm to
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Darrdene is not beating vitter... With that said the more interesting race will be who replaces Vitter in the Senate?


I agree with this. My money would be on Charles Boustany Jr. taking on a sitting congressman from North Louisiana, Mitch Landreiu or Kip Holden, and some random "Tea Party" guys from South Louisiana or the Northshore.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
8004 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 3:46 pm to
Yeah... I'm ready for some new blood in the conservative political realm. I'm curious what Hollis does in the Senate race and could be a good way to get some name recognition. I don't see him being too much of a challenge to Cassidy at this point.

Would Dardene run for Senate?
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Darrdene is not beating vitter
Eh, if Dardenne got him one on one. Dardenne could stand a good chance. His problem will be getting to the final two with candidates to both his right and left.
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Would Dardene run for Senate?

It would be quite likely. Next best thing to the big chair.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98587 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 4:28 pm to
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I give him props for not being corrupt


Not so fast.
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