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re: Louisiana folk, explain to me how in the hell you have an entrenched Democrat governor
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:34 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:34 am to Vacherie Saint
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There are still many older conservatives who are registered dems from the old days. They still consider dems a viable choice.
Yep.
JBE is one last hurrah and reunion tour for old school southern Dixiecrats who are tired of actually voting for republicans and conservative candidates because most Democrats these days are too far left for them.
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:38 am to dpd901
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Bobby Jindal based his policies strictly on what gave him the most Street Cred in a Republican Primary Process, regardless of whether or not those policies were actually beneficial to Louisiana or not. He raided state pension funds and one time revenue sources to temporarily plug budget holes to say he ran a balanced budget, when in fact he was just kicking the van down the road. This pissed a lot of Republican voters (like myself) Then the Republicans nominated David Vitter in the primary election. He was seen as another Jindal and also had gotten caught up in a prostitution scandal, which turned off some Evangelical Republicans. Edwards very slickly ran as a pro-second amendment, pro-life moderate who lived by the Weat Point Honor Code. Guns and Abortion swing a lot of moderate votes and take away two primary objections that a lot of Republicans have with Dem candidates. It was a perfect storm of events.
Good summary.
Add to that, Vitter knew he had the runoff in the bag, and he assumed he would waltz to a victory in the run-off with any Dem.
So he didn’t really put forth a plan, and he refused to debate. That left a vacuum in the narrative that allowed JBE to dictate the narrative and hammer Vitter with the sexual stuff.
Vitter ran an epically bad campaign. It was almost as if he wanted the power and position of Governor but had no platform or plan to govern.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:39 am to TigerinKorea
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David Vitter, a classic uncharismatic Rino
Vitter was many things but a RINO he was not.
Vitter was a legit conservative and actually voted like one. That’s why so many Dixiecrats in Louisiana hated him, especially the corrupt sheriffs, ambulance chasers, RINOs in the statehouse, teachers unions, Government workers and private sector folks with government contracts.
His personality and personal reputation may not be sterling but there’s no questioning his professional record.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:45 am to Jimbeaux
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Add to that, Vitter knew he had the runoff in the bag, and he assumed he would waltz to a victory in the run-off with any Dem.
So he didn’t really put forth a plan, and he refused to debate. That left a vacuum in the narrative that allowed JBE to dictate the narrative and hammer Vitter with the sexual stuff.
Indeed.
He badly underestimated JBE and the appeal he would have to older voters who used to vote Democrat.
Letting JBE sneak into the runoff without so much as one single mailer or AD spot on TV against him is absolutely criminal. Classic political malpractice.
Shame on him. He earned the loss.
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It was almost as if he wanted the power and position of Governor but had no platform or plan to govern.
Actually he did.
If anything, his platform and plan to govern said too much. He had one of the most detailed websites there was and he had something for every topic including tort reform, infrastructure and so on.
It was impressive really and especially so considering JBE had nothing, just general platitudes, and vanilla Democrat platform.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 9:57 am
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:48 am to Sentrius
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Yep. JBE is one last hurrah and reunion tour for old school southern Dixiecrats who are tired of actually voting for republicans and conservative candidates because most Democrats these days are too far left for them
This is true, but I think a Republican candidate with a solid message would still win.
He can’t win by only running on “conservative values” or “conservative ideals”. He would need to be specific. Just stating, “I’ll cut taxes and cut government spending” wont work.
He has to educate the public on exactly where the state is over-spending, and exactly where the spending can be cut.
Most Louisianians think/believe both of these seemingly contradictory things:
1) State government isn’t doing enough or providing enough services
2) State government is bloated and wasteful
Specific plans must address both of these.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:53 am to Sentrius
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If anything, his platform and plan to govern said too much. He had one of the most detailed websites there was and he had something for every topic including tort reform, infrastructure and so on.
While this is incredibly important, I think the tort reforms that Vitter was championing are what put JBE over the top. JBE is a plaintiffs lawyer. Some of the changes Vitter were proposing would really take a needed sledgehammer to that industry. However, fewer suits by the plaintiffs bar means less work for defense lawyers as well. I heard from a lot of conservative attorneys that they were scared of these reforms because they would cut down on the amount of work out there for them to perform. The vast majority of attorneys voted for JBE, and a lot of ones who wouldn't have otherwise did so for that reason.
In a close election, every demo counts.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:03 am to Jimbeaux
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This is true, but I think a Republican candidate with a solid message would still win.
We have two candidates. Check out their websites.
Eddie Rispone. Notable baton rouge area businessman and has never ran for office before. LINK
Ralph Abraham. Congressman from North Louisiana and very conservative guy to boot. LINK
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:03 am to kingbob
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I heard from a lot of conservative attorneys that they were scared of these reforms because they would cut down on the amount of work out there for them to perform. The vast majority of attorneys voted for JBE, and a lot of ones who wouldn't have otherwise did so for that reason.
During the campaign, I remember a few posters that constantly spammed this board shilling for JBE or just spewing hate against Vitter and they called themselves conservative.
I looked into their post history and it turns out they were all lawyers. Think their names went like False Prophet, Vito Andolini, Atchafalaya, Countryboy2, and so on.
Ambulance chasers for JBE.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:06 am to SlapahoeTribe
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Because of hookers
and because JBE is a better Governor than Vitter could ever dream to be!
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:11 am to Cole Beer
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and because JBE is a better Governor than Vitter could ever dream to be!
In the last 3-4 years, Louisiana is the only southern state that has lost population, GDP, business investment and is the highest taxed state in the south with nothing to show for it.
You're an idiot if you think JBE can run on that.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:16 am to Jack Ruby
Institutionalized way of doing business in Louisiana politics....just a way of life....Populism at its finest
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:25 am to Jack Ruby
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how a deep red state
We are far from a deep red state, espeically in state politics. Arky doesn't have the urban areas that LA has. Further, we have plenty of Dixiecrats here who have just become RINOs.
We have a huge welfare class here (no racial implications here, the welfare class here is very diverse) and they vote for the Dems when the Dems have money to give them.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:30 am to jptiger2009
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this makes absolutely no sense considering Louisiana is a RED fricking state.
We are a red state socially - we like our guns and don't wanna kill babies.
But economically, honestly, we're somewhere between blue and purple. A lot of people here depend upon the state government - a higher per capita than other southern states. And so the Dems run on things like expand Medicaid, and the GOP runs on things like cut food stamps, and it's easy to see where people will vote.
Social issues aren't important here in state elections.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:38 am to TGFN57
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Edwards, to his credit, has gone a long way to fix things.
noPosted on 4/11/19 at 10:40 am to Jimbeaux
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So he didn’t really put forth a plan,
He had a lot of plans, he's a bit wonkish actually. However, those plans were 47 page manifestos tucked away on his website. He never actually talked about them or broke them down in simple terms that the average voter could understand.
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he refused to debate
If there was no debate, then no one can ask him about the whores. Rather than just addressing it and moving on, he ran from it and hid.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:41 am to Jack Ruby
Without reading the thread, I would hope someone let the OP know that LA Politics has been dominated by Ds pretty much its entire history.
LA has had, what, 4 R Govs since reconstruction, and I think 2 R Senators?
LA is home to the original socialist, Huey P.
LA was blue for Clinton in 1996. I was proud of that at the time because I helped that situation.
LA has had, what, 4 R Govs since reconstruction, and I think 2 R Senators?
LA is home to the original socialist, Huey P.
LA was blue for Clinton in 1996. I was proud of that at the time because I helped that situation.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:59 am to Sentrius
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In the last 3-4 years, Louisiana is the only southern state that has lost population, GDP, business investment and is the highest taxed state in the south with nothing to show for it.
What is LA's tax rate? Arkansas just lowered theirs to try to compete with Texas (which they can't do because they have none at all), but I think ours is now 6%, down from 6.9%
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:04 am to Jack Ruby
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Jack Ruby
I mentioned you in one of my post last night. You were the first murderer on live tv that I had seen when I was just a little dude. Did the deep state actually have you do it or did you come up with the idea yourself?
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:05 am to Jack Ruby
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It means there has to be many R's casting their ballot for him, right?
Muh David Vitter. A grown man in diapers soliciting whores will have voters flocking for the safety of a decent Democrat.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:10 am to Jack Ruby
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Louisiana folk, explain to me how in the hell you have an entrenched Democrat governor
Only one explanation: the Republicans in this state are extraordinary shiteheads. Viz., 8 years of Bobby Jindal, David Vitter, David Duke, etc etc....
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