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Louisiana Budget Question re $80- per barrel oil prices
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:28 am
admittedly I think Gov West Point and F. King will find a way to screw things up anyway...
how much of a positive impact would $80- per barrel oil have on Louisiana's financial position?
lots of links talking about this today...
how much of a positive impact would $80- per barrel oil have on Louisiana's financial position?
lots of links talking about this today...
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:29 am to vl100butch
the extra cash will disappear into the governmental abyss just as it always does
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:31 am to vl100butch
Will be wasted on pet projects
This state is fricked until it gets a new constitution that allows more flexibility in cutting spending
This state is fricked until it gets a new constitution that allows more flexibility in cutting spending
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:31 am to truthbetold
This.
Whenever oil goes up, the legislature and government lock in high spending based on that income.
Whenever oil goes down, we have the same shite we’ve seen the last few years with higher taxes and/or discretionary cuts which, by the state constitution, can only come from education or health care.
Whenever oil goes up, the legislature and government lock in high spending based on that income.
Whenever oil goes down, we have the same shite we’ve seen the last few years with higher taxes and/or discretionary cuts which, by the state constitution, can only come from education or health care.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:34 am to Cosmo
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This state is fricked until it gets a new constitution that allows more flexibility in cutting spending
and this is why Jindal shouldn't be elected to sidewalk inspector!!!
he had the political capital to take on the tough issues and instead of doing something that REALLY would have him look like a Presidental contender, he spent most of his time out of state raising money!!!
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:35 am to vl100butch
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how much of a positive impact would $80- per barrel oil have on Louisiana's financial position?
It will be terrible. The Governor will call a special session to reset the budget to be based on $80 per barrel. When it tanks again, we will be fricked.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:36 am to vl100butch
IIRC both royalties and severance taxes are based on total value of production
that depends on both price and volume
the rule of thumb i've heard them all use is like $30mil per dollar of crude price
but that has been going down steadily over time, as production in the state has been going down steadily over time. and that's expected to continue, as we don't seem to have any big deal fracking play for oil like the Permian
that depends on both price and volume
the rule of thumb i've heard them all use is like $30mil per dollar of crude price
but that has been going down steadily over time, as production in the state has been going down steadily over time. and that's expected to continue, as we don't seem to have any big deal fracking play for oil like the Permian
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:40 am to vl100butch
Louisiana has far too many issues. Relying too much on something as unstable as oil prices is only one of them.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:43 am to 90proofprofessional
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the rule of thumb i've heard them all use is like $30mil per dollar of crude price
I heard $12m but like you say, it's got a volume component. And I am going from memory so I could be wrong.
The other issue is the industry. If price goes up then there is more investment and expansion of the related industries. So more income and sales tax revenue. If oil got to $80 you will see some of that, but not as much as there was before.
Some of that is because the industry is just more efficient. Some of that is because they will be gun shy to over-invest when the market may not be sustainable at those prices (mostly because of shale). And lastly, if you have anti-business policies in place from JBE their will just be less financial incentive to do so.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:44 am to vl100butch
The hate for our current Governor on this board is more laughable than the Roy Moore saga. Considering the circumstances he is doing a good job.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 11:05 am to BigJim
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The other issue is the industry. If price goes up then there is more investment and expansion of the related industries.
There's also a geographic/geologic issue. Texas has bounced back better than us and didn't dip as far, because you can produce a lot more (oil) cheaply there than here. because we have no Permian and our Tuscaloosa Shale is nowhere near as easy to frack
Texas (red) didn't go as negative (and their split from us was even bigger pre-JBE), and they've returned to ~5% employment growth year over year while we're just now leveling out
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 11:06 am
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