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re: Lord Humongous Trump: No Deal!
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:10 am to troyt37
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:10 am to troyt37
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The only way no wall is acceptable to me is if we create a 150 yard or so kill zone, build a shooting tower every 300 yards or so, and man it round the clock with sniper trainees and national guardsman. If you're caught in the kill zone, you're shot. I bet we'd only have to kill a couple hundred invaders before our border is actually secure.
Is Mexico paying for this?
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:13 am to Strannix
I want a wall, don't care who pays for it....just don't want people coming into this country illegally. Cost of wall is cheaper than all the damn social programs and the cost to support illegals.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:19 am to weptiger
At the end, he will save DACA and wall will be built in some areas. Latino vote will increase for Trump. I think Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan is already won due to coal industry. Democrats know this. This is why they don't want a electoral college.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:29 am to Esquire
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Is Mexico paying for this?
Absolutely. In my administration there will be no foreign aid to Mexico, and all remittances from the US to Mexico are taxed at 25% until it is done.
The problem with this, is as soon as you get another POS open borders democrat like Obama or Clinton in office, they just quit sending troops there.
So, since my solution to no border wall isn't going to happen, having no border wall is unacceptable. Once built, the only way a socialist democrat can make it not work is to tear it down.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:02 am to troyt37
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The Berlin Wall was built, dividing the same city and country. There is no correlation whatsoever to the border wall and the Berliun Wall.
Yeah I know it's not the same circumstances but my point still stands, the US does not need a physical wall along the southern border, there are more cost effective and high tech methods to keep the illegals out of the country
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:09 am to Bass Tiger
Politically, the Democrats know they need to make Trump give up the wall to have any realistic chance to defeat him in 2020. Congress obstructing the wall won't be enough. If Trump has any sense, he won't let them HW Bush him with a supposed compromise. He should use the DACA leverage to get the wall built. The Democrats have made this their hill to die on. If they want DACA, they will have to give us our big beautiful wall.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 10:10 am
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:25 am to Bass Tiger
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Yeah I know it's not the same circumstances but my point still stands, the US does not need a physical wall along the southern border, there are more cost effective and high tech methods to keep the illegals out of the country
Which can all be turned off and walked away from, the moment an open borders president takes office.
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the US does not need a physical wall along the southern border, there are more cost effective and high tech methods to keep the illegals out of the country
If that were true, there wouldn't be fences or walls around the White House, or any of tens of thousands of other federal facilities, would there?
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:25 am to troyt37
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If that were true, there wouldn't be fences or walls around the White House, or any of tens of thousands of other federal facilities, would there?
I don't believe the majority of folks coming across the southern border are potential assassins of the POTUS, but psychos jumping over the White House fence/wall different situation.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:36 am to Bass Tiger
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I don't believe the majority of folks coming across the southern border are potential assassins of the POTUS, but psychos jumping over the White House fence/wall different situation.
And I don't believe the White House fence/wall is 0.00000001% of all the fence/wall around federal facilities across this country, where the POTUS never goes. What is the need for them there? Ever tried to get a look at Area 51? I did when I lived in New Mexico. Fences work pretty damn well there for keeping people out. Ever try to waltz on to a military base? Fences/walls. They work, that's why they are there. The fact that open border democrats and Mexicans are fighting the building of the wall is a testament to it's effectiveness. Build it. Trump was elected on it. Anything else is unacceptable. Trump isn't the only one who will pay the price if they fail to do so.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:36 am to Ingeniero
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I don't want a wall,
I want a wall. I want a wall equipped with high-voltage barbed wire, 7.62mm machine gun nests, sniper hides, flamethrowers, and 40mm grenade launchers. I want a wall that if anyone gets through they are captured and sent to Special Forces selection.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:38 am to mmcgrath
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This is getting sad.
What? People believe the fake media over Our President? Yes, it is sad.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:42 am to Seldom Seen
I'm so confused.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:43 am to Delacroix22
You're not the only one
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:15 pm to troyt37
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Which can all be turned off and walked away from, the moment an open borders president takes office.
The moment an open borders president is elected he can simply order the wall be torn down. Its no different than Trump reversing all the EOs that obama signed
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:24 pm to Jeff Boomhauer
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The moment an open borders president is elected he can simply order the wall be torn down. Its no different than Trump reversing all the EOs that obama signed
Umm... it's not being built because of an executive order. It's being built because securing our borders is a requirement given to the federal government by the Constitution, which has been downplayed and ignored by generations of politicians for one reason or another. Trump's election was clear evidence that the excuses are over.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:47 pm to troyt37
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And I don't believe the White House fence/wall is 0.00000001% of all the fence/wall around federal facilities across this country, where the POTUS never goes. What is the need for them there? Ever tried to get a look at Area 51? I did when I lived in New Mexico. Fences work pretty damn well there for keeping people out. Ever try to waltz on to a military base? Fences/walls. They work, that's why they are there. The fact that open border democrats and Mexicans are fighting the building of the wall is a testament to it's effectiveness. Build it. Trump was elected on it. Anything else is unacceptable. Trump isn't the only one who will pay the price if they fail to do so.
The wall would be nothing more than a symbolic relic that would be dismantled by the next Dim to occupy the White House. We have the technology and manpower to construct an impenetrable border region between the US and Mexico, would also serve as a great training ground for US troops using the latest high tech surveillance gear.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:49 pm to Strannix
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Lord Homunculus Trump
FIFY
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:56 pm to Bass Tiger
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I'm still full on MAGA but the wall is not needed. We have the technology and manpower to surveil the entire border without building the next Berlin Wall.
Correct, just build the double fencing where appropriate, you know the one that was passed by Congress in 2006.
Make that do nothing Congress, 11 fricking years and they haven't built the damn thing yet.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:13 pm to Bass Tiger
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The wall would be nothing more than a symbolic relic that would be dismantled by the next Dim to occupy the White House.
And therefore directly violate Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution, which reads:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence."
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We have the technology and manpower to construct an impenetrable border region between the US and Mexico, would also serve as a great training ground for US troops using the latest high tech surveillance gear.
Which is entirely dependent on the president and the legislature at any given time, as to whether it functions as a protection against invasion. The Constitution says they do not have that choice. Don't you get it? The Legislative and the Executive branches can no more do that than they can arbitrarily decide that some states get 4 senators, and others one. Nobody it seems, republicans, democrats, conservatives, or liberals want to recognize that the answers to most of the country's problems lies in the Constitution. FML
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