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re: looks like Carson is in
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:45 am to lsusaintsfan4life
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:45 am to lsusaintsfan4life
He believes in an educated populous. He would like to see the D and R's taken away from candidates names so that one must be informed prior to going into the ballot box. If we understood what they stood for, we would select the best for our society. The game of always voting D or R is dangerous. As I have stated earlier, he is independent and has been for some time.
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:46 am to lsusaintsfan4life
He believes in rewarding academic achievements the way that we reward athletics. We are falling behind in the world and need brilliant kids to step up. He believes that every individual should have the opportunity to be educated and maximize ones own gifts. We should have systems in place which help this. Not the crippling debt that follows many that go to college.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 11:20 am to Vegas Bengal
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Wright's church was and is a big part of Chicago politics and society. Freakin Oprah went. It's a freakin mega church.
I suspect the IRS will be investigating them?
How can you say Wright does not engage is racially hateful rhetoric?
Posted on 8/3/14 at 12:45 pm to lsusaintsfan4life
The medical account idea is incredibly regressive and will never fly in the US. In fact it would lead to insurance pools but more lopsided than we have had. Obviously the caveat of the government chipping in money for the poor doesn't really save money unless you are going to cut off medical services at $10K for entire families regardless of the emergency. And the example of grandma foregoing a life saving procedure so little Timmy can get the anti-biotics he needs is horrible.
I am totally cool with non-partisan elections. We can have them in cities in NJ, so I can't see why they wouldn't fly nationally.
The flat tax idea that starts at a certain wage level is OK, but it is only one part of the equation. Would there be a national sales tax? What would be the corporate rate? From what i recall the 9/9/9 plan required both to make the first work. The 9% sales tax would kill revenue for most states. I could be OK with it, but I don't trust the R's to implement it.
Rewarding academic achievements like athletics sounds real good, but there is very little entertainment value to academics. Without that, where do the rewards (aka $$$) come from? Without explaining that and how everyone has an opportunity to get educated (go to college?) it is just hot air.
Thanks for the info.
I am totally cool with non-partisan elections. We can have them in cities in NJ, so I can't see why they wouldn't fly nationally.
The flat tax idea that starts at a certain wage level is OK, but it is only one part of the equation. Would there be a national sales tax? What would be the corporate rate? From what i recall the 9/9/9 plan required both to make the first work. The 9% sales tax would kill revenue for most states. I could be OK with it, but I don't trust the R's to implement it.
Rewarding academic achievements like athletics sounds real good, but there is very little entertainment value to academics. Without that, where do the rewards (aka $$$) come from? Without explaining that and how everyone has an opportunity to get educated (go to college?) it is just hot air.
Thanks for the info. Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:02 pm to lsusaintsfan4life
Carson has found a profitable venue on Fox serving as a Republican shill. He is there to say things no white person could get away with.
For example, if Hillary Clinton had said that the Hobby Lobby ruling is the worst thing to happen to this country since slavery she would have been rightly excoriated by both right AND left, but Carson can say something preposterous and incendiary and be applauded by Republicans.
This fascination with Carson is entirely racial. A white man who says the same things would be laughed off the national stage. It's also entirely naive of Republicans to think that Carson in some way legitimizes their Party or disproves the Democratic Party among African Americans. Black people in this country snicker at tokenism and at the presumptuousness of white people who think it can be effective.
For example, if Hillary Clinton had said that the Hobby Lobby ruling is the worst thing to happen to this country since slavery she would have been rightly excoriated by both right AND left, but Carson can say something preposterous and incendiary and be applauded by Republicans.
This fascination with Carson is entirely racial. A white man who says the same things would be laughed off the national stage. It's also entirely naive of Republicans to think that Carson in some way legitimizes their Party or disproves the Democratic Party among African Americans. Black people in this country snicker at tokenism and at the presumptuousness of white people who think it can be effective.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:08 pm to Rex
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Black people in this country snicker at tokenism
what is "tokenism"?
and ben carson was a hero of the mid-atlantic black youth. he was THE example and did work to promote working hard, putting personal resources into getting educated, avoiding criminal behavior, etc. it's funny how he's now a pariah to that community b/c he's speaking for Rs
is that "tokenism"?
Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:18 pm to Rex
but that implies that the GOP recruited him
The GOP didn't land on Ben Carson; Ben Carson landed on the GOP
The GOP didn't land on Ben Carson; Ben Carson landed on the GOP
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:19 pm to Rex
quote:Ah yes, once again the monolithic and disparate generalizations of "white people" and "black people" and Fox News. Anything but social homogeneity.
Black people in this country snicker at tokenism and at the presumptuousness of white people who think it can be effective.
Right Rex?
The single central tenet to divisive policy . . . . . divide and conquer.
Sucks for America, but it works for Dems.
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:21 pm to NC_Tigah
oh and this
sounds like affirmative action
quote:
Tokenism is the policy or practice of making a perfunctory gesture toward the inclusion of members of minority groups.
sounds like affirmative action
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 8/3/14 at 2:30 pm to Rex
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This fascination with Carson is entirely racial. A white man who says the same things would be laughed off the national stage. It's also entirely naive of Republicans to think that Carson in some way legitimizes their Party or disproves the Democratic Party among African Americans. Black people in this country snicker at tokenism and at the presumptuousness of white people who think it can be effective.
Interesting how well the same statement would have perfectly fit candidate Obama.
The fascination with Obama is entirely racial. A white man who says the same things would be laughed off the national stage. It's also entirely naive of Democrats to think that Obama in some way legitimizes their Party or disproves the Republican Party among African Americans. Black people in this country snicker at tokenism and at the presumptuousness of white people who think it can be effective.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 3:08 pm to EA6B
Nothing against Carson, but I don't trust any of them.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 4:31 pm to KeyserSoze999
He's no more qualified than Obama was. I like the guy, but this won't work.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Like Sarah Palin. But in this case I suspect that Carson isn't as right wing as most would like and a salesman that doesn't believe in his product won't make a good case.
The GOP didn't land on Ben Carson; Ben Carson landed on the GOP
Posted on 8/3/14 at 4:44 pm to EA6B
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Interesting how well the same statement would have perfectly fit candidate Obama.
That's a pretty dumb statement considering at least a third of Democrats are African-American.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 4:51 pm to Rex
You are so far off base its comical. Hey Rex I was a poor white kid that made something of himself. Guess what? Many of my dearest friends are not white, yet we have the same hopes and prayers for our children. We want to see a world in which hard work and sacrifice gets rewarded and laziness and gluttony is punished. I don't give a rats arse what you look like, I am living MLK's dream.
I would give the shirt off my back to help a brother in need. I would also have no problem calling out someone for poor decisions even if he were my blood, in which I have.
"So I have been sent here to destroy you. And there is a million of us just like me, who cuss like me; who just don't give a fu.. like me; who dress like me; walk, talk, and act like me; it might be the next best thing, bust not quite me…"
You are weak Rex. Weak. Your thought process will not survive long term. Know and accept that.
I would give the shirt off my back to help a brother in need. I would also have no problem calling out someone for poor decisions even if he were my blood, in which I have.
"So I have been sent here to destroy you. And there is a million of us just like me, who cuss like me; who just don't give a fu.. like me; who dress like me; walk, talk, and act like me; it might be the next best thing, bust not quite me…"
You are weak Rex. Weak. Your thought process will not survive long term. Know and accept that.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 4:57 pm to Rex
It probably should be against the law for black people to register republican then, Rex? Or just run on the GOP ticket? Or are you saying the can run GOP as long as they keep their mouths shut? Just trying to understand your racism, er, logic
Posted on 8/3/14 at 5:03 pm to lsusaintsfan4life
quote:So MLK's dream was to punish the lazy and glutinous? You might want to check with your black friends on that one.
You are so far off base its comical. Hey Rex I was a poor white kid that made something of himself. Guess what? Many of my dearest friends are not white, yet we have the same hopes and prayers for our children. We want to see a world in which hard work and sacrifice gets rewarded and laziness and gluttony is punished. I don't give a rats arse what you look like, I am living MLK's dream.
I would give the shirt off my back to help a brother in need. I would also have no problem calling out someone for poor decisions even if he were my blood, in which I have.
"So I have been sent here to destroy you. And there is a million of us just like me, who cuss like me; who just don't give a fu.. like me; who dress like me; walk, talk, and act like me; it might be the next best thing, bust not quite me…"
You are weak Rex. Weak. Your thought process will not survive long term. Know and accept that.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 5:07 pm to mmcgrath
Those that are lazy and glutinous do not lead a prosperous life. Your government is trying to take the sting out of bad decisions. I believe that they should feel every bit of it. The system should be there to reward those that are trying to help self. If you don't care about yourself, why should I? I have no sympathy for those that don't care.
Understand now?
Understand now?
Posted on 8/3/14 at 5:08 pm to lsusaintsfan4life
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You are so far off base its comical. Hey Rex I was a poor white kid that made something of himself. Guess what? Many of my dearest friends are not white, yet we have the same hopes and prayers for our children. We want to see a world in which hard work and sacrifice gets rewarded and laziness and gluttony is punished. I don't give a rats arse what you look like, I am living MLK's dream. I would give the shirt off my back to help a brother in need.
Say what? When did I ever say otherwise?
Now let ME tell YOU my own story.
You know those glasses everybody's been talking about in this thread? About how Ben Carson needed government assistance to get them? I needed glasses from before I entered first grade and never got any until I was in ninth grade. I didn't have government assistance to get glasses. I had to ask teachers to allow me to sit in the front of the class because I couldn't read the chalkboards, and even then I had to make an aperture with my forefingers and thumbs to put numbers and words into suitable focus (ask any nearsighted person... they know the trick). Do you know how embarrassing that was?
Despite all that I was an excellent student.
I worked my way through a college education with scholarships, grants, loans, and jobs because my family certainly didn't have the money to send me.
Don't lecture me about not knowing what hard work or being poor means. I could write a book.
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