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re: looks like Carson is in

Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74083 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:22 pm to
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But I can tell you, they didn't get free glasses to read and study and become neurosurgeons
Glasses would have been obtained either way.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37324 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:30 pm to
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Dr Carson has written six best-selling books so many of his views are probably out there in print.

I am sure that we will be hearing about his political views now that he has all but announced he is running for Prez.

I think Dr Carson made many of this views at the 2013 National Prayer Breakfast. The little muzzie boy was not too amused to say the least.
I look forward to hearing his points. However I was questioning lsu saints fan's anointing Carson to saint level and calling him a great man. I am sure he hasn't read all of his books yet, or at least he hasn't shown me by telling us anything about Carson beyond what came out in MSM.

I won't hold him to every thought he expresses in his book, but if his family received subsidies growing up that would be a fact that would fly in the face of his current belief that subsidies hinder motivation.

I do want to see a bit beyond that. On a similar note I would like to see a number of relatively smart people who are used to the spotlight (pre-req for the position) interviewed to become a candidate. Mark Cuban would be a favorite of mine.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37324 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:36 pm to
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Glasses would have been obtained either way.
Or not obtained. The early part of the 20th century was pretty rough.
Posted by lsusaintsfan4life
Member since Mar 2008
947 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:11 pm to
ONE NATION: What we can all do to save Americ's future

Saving our future
Causes of disunity and decline
Political correctness
Elitism
Ignorance and forgetfulness
Bigotry
No winners in political fighting
Enslaving our children-dont sell the future

SOLUTIONS
Pushing back
Respectful disagreement
The art of compromise
Becoming informed
Wisdom and Knowledge
My brother's keeper

Who we are
Without a vision
Role models
The origin of morality
Take courage

This is a link to Dr. Carson's newest book of which I have about 20 pages left. He is not part of the GOP and has been registered as independent for some time. He explains with clarity his views and why they formed during his lifetime in the book. The challenge is for any of you to pick it up and be inspired. He is compassionate with regards to peoples hardships but believes in a system that does not take away a man's drive.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74083 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:26 pm to
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Glasses would have been obtained either way.


Or not obtained. The early part of the 20th century was pretty rough.



So if it wasn't for the government, cute little Carson wouldn't have had glasses?



I am always amazed at the low levels statists will stoop to.
Posted by PhoenixLSUTiger
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2007
1410 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:57 pm to
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I really like the guy. The Dems will show their true colors in their hate for this guy. You think Palin was treated bad...


Sorta like the way the republicans treat Obama? Poor Palin. That bitch got everything she deserved.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49479 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:10 pm to
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am a much more intelligent man than Ben Carson could ever hope to be.

Now that is the dumbest statement ever posted on the internet.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49479 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:17 pm to
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Sorta like the way the republicans treat Obama? Poor Palin. That bitch got everything she deserved.

I'm pretty sure the republicans objections to Obama are policy related and related to his incompetence in his job.

Your opposition to Palin is that she is a woman who got a lot of publicity in the 08 campaign.

Palin is not close to being as stupid as Pelosi or a couple dozen other esteemed DEM congresswomen. And she is not nearly the bitch that Pelosi or Hillary are.

In fact, I cannot recall a single bitchy thing she has done. So please inform us of your basis for calling her a bitch.
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 8:19 pm
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12163 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:58 pm to
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Not necessarily any smarter than other surgeons.

As a whole, they probably are. Depending on the metric used, maybe not orthopaedic or plastic surgeons, but definitely general surgeons (I'm talking overall; of course there will always be exceptions).
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12163 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:00 pm to
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They are entirely unique in the field of medicine.

I also wouldn't go this far either. Their training is pretty damn long though, I'll give you that.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:32 pm to
I like that he's not really a lifelong politician.

I am afraid that the media will destroy him.
Posted by Love me some Les
Member since Mar 2014
289 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:30 pm to
Oh wait! Since things didn't go as we planned, let's form a new Church. That's all I really need.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37324 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:35 pm to
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Glasses would have been obtained either way.
Or not obtained. The early part of the 20th century was pretty rough.
So if it wasn't for the government, cute little Carson wouldn't have had glasses?

Does logic escape everyone on this board??? That is not what I said. To believe that every kid in the early 20th century got glasses when they needed them would be a total denial. Now, would "cute little Carson" have gotten glasses without government assistance, who knows? One could reason that his mother could have gotten them by some other means. However, one could also say that in many cases government assistance since the middle of the 20th Century has provided glasses for some kids who may have not had them otherwise.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:44 pm to
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IMO, not being a career politician is a GOOD thing for President. I hate career politicians because they are already bought by lobbyists. I like guys like Carson who aren't part of the system and might be more in touch with everyday Americans. He can surround himself with good personnel to help with the job as President.
I agree, but New Orleans thought they had this with Ray Nagin. I know it's a much different situation, but sometimes the job can swallow what was thought to be a decent, "outsider."
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37324 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:46 pm to
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This is a link to Dr. Carson's newest book of which I have about 20 pages left.
Then tell me, what are his political beliefs? Does he think that all of the country's problems are rooted in political correctness and that we are "godless"?

I can see from cover jacket that he has doubled down on his opposition to ObamaCare, saying that it "threatens our health, liberty, and financial future."
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 11:47 pm
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 11:47 pm to
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He is not part of the GOP and has been registered as independent for some time.
This matters only to the extent that his actual views on policy diverge from the GOP. Plenty of "registered independents" are stock partisans.
Posted by lsusaintsfan4life
Member since Mar 2008
947 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:57 am to
I would not do Dr Carson justice by trying to reproduce his ideas. Briefly, he recognizes the difficulty that people find themselves in as well as the overall health of our countries debt. It will take great thought and actions to get us out of this mess. He welcomes discussion and opposing views. There must be compromise on bother ends for us to come together.

Read the book. That is the challenge.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37324 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:06 am to
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Read the book. That is the challenge.
Sounds like a But tempt me. Is there any action that Dr. Carson recommends besides eliminating Obamacare? Does he have any recommendations for resolving the debt? Would he reduce taxes or increase them? Would he push for a flat tax? Would he eliminate deductions? Cut social programs? Cut military spending? How does he feel about the ADA, Medicaid, Social Security?

Is there anything on these in his book? If it is all about telling people to communicate then it really isn't worth the read.
Posted by lsusaintsfan4life
Member since Mar 2008
947 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:40 am to
His solution to the health care crisis is for all citizens to have health savings accounts in which money could be put in yearly tax free. This money would be essentially a savings account for all monies not used. This would put the responsibility of medical care back to the individual. The money in the account could be passed down to family members if a person died. Therefore, the 90 yo who needs a pacemaker can decide as to whether or not spending 8,000 was worth it or if she would rather her children get the benefit. For those that are truly impoverished, the government would place the money in there for them. This takes out a 3rd party payer and gives the individual "chips" in the game.
Posted by lsusaintsfan4life
Member since Mar 2008
947 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:43 am to
With regards to taxation, he promotes an equal % tax on everyone above a certain poverty limit. We are all citizens and should have "chips" in the game as it makes us care. If you make 20,000 you pay 2,000. If you make 10 billion, you pay 1 billion.

For those that say it isn't fair, the man just paid 1 billion dollars!!! We all need to care.
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