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Looks like at least 3 Freedom Caucus members say they won't support McCarthy for speaker
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:11 pm
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Republican Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy may have his party's nomination to be the next speaker of the House, but that does not mean he has enough votes to win the job.
A handful of conservatives in the House of Representatives have announced that they will not vote for McCarthy to be speaker in January, when the 118th Congress will begin its first session. With only six House races left uncalled, Republicans are looking at a slim majority that would make McCarthy vulnerable to losing the speaker election if he fails to win every vote from the Republican conference.
The GOP currently holds 218 seats – the minimum to claim a majority of the House and the number of votes needed to become House speaker. They are projected to hold anywhere from 220 to 224, meaning McCarthy can't afford to lose more than two to six votes in his conference in the speaker's race.
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In the nomination vote this week, McCarthy fell more than 30 votes shy of his 218 target to become speaker.
As it stands, there are three Republican members who have publicly stated that they will not support McCarthy: Reps. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., and Matt Rosendale, R-Mont.
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Rules changes to House procedure are the most consistent demands from Freedom Caucus members. Several lawmakers who spoke to Fox News said they want a return to regular order in the House, which would require every single piece of major legislation to be debated and voted in committee before heading to the House floor.
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Freedom Caucus members say a return to regular order is especially important on budget and appropriations bills. Congress in recent years has seen such bills assembled on the floor by leadership and passed with limited debate. In some cases, House leaders have even voted to suspend normal operating procedures to expedite legislation.
They also want a rule that would require all legislation to be made available to read for more than 72 hours before a vote; a ban on tying unrelated bills together and passed en bloc; more representation on top House committees, including the important House Rules Committee; and a dramatic rules change that would end the House speaker's ability to appoint the committee chairman and instead allow a panel's individual members to vote on that position.
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:14 pm to Bamatab
None of those demands are unreasonable.
I wonder if he doesn’t get the votes if a few GOPe will vote for a Dem speaker instead of a more conservative one
I wonder if he doesn’t get the votes if a few GOPe will vote for a Dem speaker instead of a more conservative one
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:42 pm to deltaland
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None of those demands are unreasonable.
No, and they were the rules at one time.
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I wonder if he doesn’t get the votes if a few GOPe will vote for a Dem speaker instead of a more conservative one
McCarthy has already won the Republican nomination, so I'm assuming the vote will be between McCarthy and whoever the dem nominee is. The Freedom Caucus members are trying to either bluff McCarthy into making the rule changes, or they are not bluffing and willing to let a dem get the speaker spot. But I don't think a more conservative person is in play here.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:45 pm to Bamatab
I can see it already. The Freedom Caucus causes shite and the Republicans are unable to do anything. And in two years Democrats waltz back in. You know they have the press and social media on their side.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:47 pm to Bamatab
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McCarthy has already won the Republican nomination, so I'm assuming the vote will be between McCarthy and whoever the dem nominee is. The Freedom Caucus members are trying to either bluff McCarthy into making the rule changes, or they are not bluffing and willing to let a dem get the speaker spot. But I don't think a more conservative person is in play here.
Doesn’t the Speaker have to get 218 voted minimum?
What happens if no one does?
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:50 pm to doubleb
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What happens if no one does?
They will have to pick an acceptable democrat. They can get to 218 with that. Funny the republicans seem to always get themselves discombobulated. All the while the democrats get a special counsel moving along.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:50 pm to Bamatab
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:52 pm to doubleb
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Doesn’t the Speaker have to get 218 voted minimum?
What happens if no one does?
To be elected speaker, a candidate must receive a majority of the votes cast. If no candidate wins a majority, the roll call is repeated until a speaker is elected.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:52 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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They will have to pick an acceptable democrat. They can get to 218 with that. Funny the republicans seem to always get themselves discombobulated. All the while the democrats get a special counsel moving along.
So there are two candidates and you have to vote for one of the two?
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:58 pm to doubleb
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So there are two candidates and you have to vote for one of the two?
The dissenting Freedom Caucus members can vote for whoever they want, but the GOP has already nominated McCarthy so the rest of the Republicans are voting for him.
This is from wiki so take it for what it's worth:
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Representatives who choose to vote for someone other than their party's nominated candidate usually vote for someone else in their party or vote "present". Anyone who votes for the other party's candidate would face serious consequences, as was the case when Democrat James Traficant voted for Republican Dennis Hastert in 2001 (107th Congress). In response, the Democrats stripped him of his seniority and he lost all of his committee posts.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 10:02 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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I can see it already. The Freedom Caucus causes shite and the Republicans are unable to do anything. And in two years Democrats waltz back in. You know they have the press and social media on their side.
It's not like they are asking for some crazy demands. They are just asking for a return to the House rules that were in place before Pelosi took the speaker position. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 10:16 pm to doubleb
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So there are two candidates and you have to vote for one of the two?
No.
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