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re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins

Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 3:18 pm to
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Most Americans are too stupid to even define political conservatism, so I’m calling bullshite on that.



Its been this way for decades. Most Americans are more conservative leaning than progressive.

The party that used to represent Conservatives got lost along the way so they only represent a quarter of the voting public today.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:15 pm to
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I haven't run from anything. I've addressed it multiple times. You just don't like that I find it to be a waste of time.

Yes, you've addressed it by running from it.

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Hypotheticals and whataboutism aren't all that useful in this discussion.

Hypotheticals are very different than whataboutisms, and not useful only for the pussies that run from them.

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You're free to frick off if you don't like that.

This is where you guys always end up.

"I'm a 3rd party voter, full of shite, can't make any sense of my own positions, am deluded into believing it's all about me, and it's Republicans fault I'm retarded - so frick off."
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:17 pm to
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Do you know why? Look at your sales tactic in this thread.

Delusions of grandeur. Like it's my job to keep you from voting like a retard.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:21 pm to
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running


I don't think this means what you think it means.

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Hypotheticals are very different than whataboutisms


Sure, like Republicans and Democrats. But like them, both are of little use.

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This is where you guys always end up.


I didn't tell you to frick off. I just gave you the option.

You're the only one between us hell bent on making decisions for others.

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"I'm a 3rd party voter..."


You're just...

Yeah.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:22 pm to
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Like it's my job to keep you from voting like a retard.


I fricking hope not. You can't even manage to do that for yourself.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:33 pm to
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I fricking hope not. You can't even manage to do that for yourself

You guys aren't fooling anyone. You refuse to consider what this country looks like in five years if 20% of conservatives go full retard like you have, because you know you're full of shite.

DB, Roger, Roaad, Aubie - tell us how things get better if the conservative wing of the Republican party votes 3rd party with you.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:34 pm to
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You guys aren't fooling anyone. You refuse to consider what this country looks like in five years if 20% of conservatives go full retard like you have, because you know you're full of shite.

DB, Roger, Roaad, Aubie - tell us how things get better if the conservative wing of the Republican party votes 3rd party with you.


Pluralistic. Ignorance. Is. Not. An. Argument.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27395 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:50 pm to
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"I'm a 3rd party voter,


DisplacedBuckeye is not a 3rd Party voter.

He is a passionate supporter of John Kasich who is as ESTABLISHMENT as it gets.

Why are you all still entertaining Buckeye's lies about being some sort of independent?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:51 pm to
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like Republicans and Democrats.


When did your hero John Kasich switch to independent?
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116951 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:53 pm to
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You're voting for Progressive candidates running under the Republican banner, and you're ignorant of it.
There are a few decent Republicans in Congress. The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Paul and Massey. The only thing that makes most of the rest better than Democrats is that they don't openly hate everyone to the right of Xi Jinping. They don't really provide much resistance to the leftist agenda, however, and more often go along with it than not.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:53 pm to
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Delusions of grandeur.


You will get over it.

When you can sell me on voting for the Republican candidate, I will. You'll continue to support the things you pretend to hate.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Why are you all still entertaining Buckeye's lies about being some sort of independent?

Like for many here, this is entertainment for me and to see these morons fantasizing about their superior intellect is a little funny. Especially when they run like little girls from the simplest/most obvious questions.

There was a time I took DB as a bit of a troll, a guy that simply posted BS to get a reaction. But this thread has me thinking he truly is dim, because looking like a retard isn't the same as trolling.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:58 pm to
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When you can sell me on voting for the Republican candidate, I will. You'll continue to support the things you pretend to hate.

Sell me on voting 3rd party. Explain how voting 3rd party isn't going to get us more of what you pretend to hate.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:04 pm to
This is who the concerned independent Buckeye voted for:
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John R. Kasich, a lifelong Republican and former rival of President Trump’s spoke at the Democratic convention — and says he will vote for Joseph R. Biden Jr.
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John Kasich, Liberal....

You wanna keep lecturing people about the 2nd Amendment and Conservative ideas, you fking coward?

DisplacedBuckeye is a boolicker for the Establishment.

His hero is a Biden voter.

His shtick about being a fierce independent came about because his guy Kasich got buggered by The Donald.

He's simply throwing a tantrum because Trump broke him, nothing more.

Buckeye is a troll and a fake .

His passionate support of Liberal Kasich is easily researched on this very site.

He's not an independent and he's not a Libertarian.

He's just a mad old dude who think the Romney/McCain Wing of the Republican Party is what the country needs.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:04 pm to
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David_DJS


If you believe anything that creeper says, you're a bigger dumbass than he is.

After this thread, that wouldn't be a shocking development.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:05 pm to
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see these morons fantasizing about their superior intellect is a little funny.


To passionately support a Liberal like Kasich then try to portray yourself as holding the moral high ground is delusional.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:06 pm to
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But this thread has me thinking he truly is dim,


Seriously, Trump broke him.

He has abandoned reason for anger and madness.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Sell me on voting 3rd party.



Vote the candidate that best represent your beliefs, like the founding fathers intended

No one should have to sell you on it.

John Adams:

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We electors have an important constitutional power placed in our hands; we have a check upon two branches of the legislature . . . the power I mean of electing at stated periods [each] branch. . . . It becomes necessary to every [citizen] then, to be in some degree a statesman, and to examine and judge for himself of the tendency of political principles and measures. Let us examine, then, with a sober, a manly . . . and a Christian spirit; let us neglect all party [loyalty] and advert to facts; let us believe no man to be infallible or impeccable in government any more than in religion; take no man’s word against evidence, nor implicitly adopt the sentiments of others who may be deceived themselves, or may be interested in deceiving us.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28170 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 6:30 pm to
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Vote the candidate that best represent your beliefs, like the founding fathers intended



That would be me. I could write myself in and have the same success rate as voting for a Libertarian.

I get voting in a way that you think will bring change. I have zero problem with it and I've done it. I don't think doing so in a complete disregard for circumstances is very bright. Sometimes I might think it best to lodge a protest vote, which at this point is all you're doing, but sometimes I might think it best to vote for a less than perfect solution in order to keep bad from becoming worse.

You do you, but don't think you're occupying some moral high ground here. All of us, hopefully, or voting in ways that we think is best for the country.
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